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Old 12-24-2004, 03:14 AM   #21
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The Generic Archer is almost completely balanced. the Anti-Paladin, on the other hand, is....um....rather munchkin-friendly. It's an Evil Fighter, with all the advantages of the Inqisitor kit, the additional ability of Dispel Magic on every melee hit (no matter with what weapon), and no disadvantages whatsoever.
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Old 12-24-2004, 08:27 AM   #22
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I still think BGT is worth a shot. I know, having spoken with most involved, that even Bardez wanted bgt to be more of a tutu like mod in the sense of teh idea. But I still think the game isn't too bad, bugs have been ironed out, and Mark III is much easier to install than the original. Granted, it may take a little longer to install, but if you want to play a game which will take up days of your time, you may aswell make it as enjoyable as possible. I like the idea of TotSC, since it seems more realistic in my opinion, and you can completely skip it if you want, (although it seems rather pointless to miss out on all the good stuff) the transition isn't that bad, and is much more streamlined and user friendly than tutu to that degree.
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Old 12-24-2004, 04:50 PM   #23
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and don't forget that BGT will reward you with a helmet that makes Mind Flayers into mindless goblins more or less

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Old 12-24-2004, 05:47 PM   #24
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And what about those whitout a copy of TotSC? What are we supposed to do? [img]graemlins/verysad.gif[/img]

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Old 12-24-2004, 08:30 PM   #25
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Tutu should work regardless of the presence of either TotSC or ToB, although there are some speciall install instructions for non-TotSC users.
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Old 12-25-2004, 03:33 AM   #26
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anybody that uses items that aren't in BG offically or any patches that allow multiple items to be used past the black isle restrictions (eg using rings of protection should NOT be able to be used with magic armour for a REASON!!) are NEWBIEEEEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

it is cheating! if u've used either of these and pass it on Insane to me that is worth less than somebody who has passed it on easy....
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Old 12-25-2004, 03:41 AM   #27
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oh, come on
it's a fun helmet
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Old 12-25-2004, 06:30 AM   #28
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anybody that uses items that aren't in BG offically or any patches that allow multiple items to be used past the black isle restrictions (eg using rings of protection should NOT be able to be used with magic armour for a REASON!!) are NEWBIEEEEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

it is cheating! if u've used either of these and pass it on Insane to me that is worth less than somebody who has passed it on easy....
What makes Black Isle's design decisions so perfect?

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Old 12-25-2004, 07:27 AM   #29
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Sorry i was a bit with my way just then [img]tongue.gif[/img] i'm sorry [img]smile.gif[/img] merry xmas too!!

But they made the game like that for the reason of making it balanced and to avoid some classes vastly overpowering others.

Eg) the restriction which stops a fighter from using magic protection armour and rings means that his armour class (which is already way lower than a mages) cannot be lowered twice whilst a mage who cannot where armour at all only has the option of being lowered once either way.

Another arguement against the "ease of use" patch is that black isle designed the game to have enemies which would suit opponents with a particular AC. Bending the game to lower this intended AC means you are no doubt making the game easier for yourself.
The same goes for non-official items. Seriously, how many of these items are actually less good than others found in the game? not very many.

I didn't mean to rant, but in a game where the items that you find are an even greater source of power than your character's build means that bending the restrictions that black isle put on the game by wearing items in a way which stops the restrictions or by using the weapons the game permits i feel that a person loses all bragging rights when these are broken [img]tongue.gif[/img]

lol bye
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Old 12-25-2004, 08:17 AM   #30
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Heheh, merry christmas to you too. I do agree that things like Ease of Use's component to allow wearing of multiple magical items is rather unbalancing, and yes, it'd make beating any given battle distinctly easier.
On the other hand, I think that these days, the majority of mods are leaning towards introducing more balanced items, so I wouldn't encourage instinctive rejection of mod items as "cheating". Modding's generally past the stage where something like TDD comes along with a +12 weapon and a quest to kill some gods. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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