Imoen (Spoiler? possibly)

[Legos]

How do you deal with her?
Does she have any good use in the party or is she just an below average sidekick required by the storyline?
I usually take her with my party but last time i figured that she was just way too bad for an thief character (to fill in the hole if i kick Jan), and also an far worse mage that he is.
So, have you found any way to make her more useful for the party?

Now i´m not talking about saving quests so she can gain experience after leaving underdark; underdark is a part of the game, which i think i need some experience to complete...

So, do you have any thought abouts her usefulness or other such things?


PS: I can always justify leaving Imoen to collect dust into copper coronet with my main character being an chaotic neutral lunatic jester who is currently far more concerned about Viconia than Imoen... ;D

[Xen]

Hmm. Do you have ToB? If you do Imoen can be very powerful Mage altough I prefer Sorcerers. [img]tongue.gif[/img] She can be a good thief all you need is potions.-Plenty of them. Jan on the other hand is also very good. Again if you have ToB becuase of certain ToB HLA. Aerie is considerd as the best NPC when it comes to spellcasting.-With ToB that is.
So IMHO Imoen is worth it no doubt. All NPC`s are. Well except maybe for Anomen.

[ 09-04-2003, 02:36 PM: Message edited by: Xen ]

[Legos]

Throne of Bhaal that is...
Well i´m getting it pretty soon i think, as well as an extra copy of BG2...
*sigh*
So quickly Throne of Bhaal was drawn from the stores...
No copies of the thing left in online stores; must buy with the original game...
*sigh*

With HLA i assume you mean High Level Abilities?
Yes, i´m looking forward to those...


Spoiler?
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Heh, anomen...
Ghehheh, that sad-arrogant-child-killer!
I led him to take revenge but the poor bastard decided to go child killing...
Ghehheh...
In result, failing his promotion to knight...
Mwahahahaa...
I never liked him...
Uhh, well he ended up as [Gory combat animation] in front of the door of the "most noble order of the radiated heart" or something... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[ 09-04-2003, 02:51 PM: Message edited by: Legos ]

[Xen]

Bravo! You did a great job by killing Anomen. Altough he is a better Cleric then Viconia.

Yes by HLA I mean High Level Ability. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[Faceman]

If you have SoA only all NPCs max out at about 2.75mio XP IIRC
Therefore pure (Edwin) and dual mages (Nalia,Imoen) excel over multi-class (Aerie,Jan) because they can learn higher spell lvls. Imoen is a quite useful character as
1.) she has about all the basic thief abilities you crucially need (detecting traps and lockpicking) and you can of course imporve that with potions
2.) she makes an excellent mage but can also use some mage-forbidden equipment (e.g. Bows, Swords).
3.) She excels over Nalia because she has a better thief portion and better looks

The reason Imoen is often considered weak is that once you rescue her your party is often higher in level than she is. Therefore she tends to be "the one with the low experience". But try a game with lots of party reforming you'll find that some other characters suffer the exact same setback at some point.

[Legos]

Yes, i guess it is the experience difference causing a major piece of the trouble...
But...
I still think she has an disadvantage to Jan since she can´t advance at all with her thief class (I THINK...), and her trap disarming skill is somewhat worse, leaving her at the risk of triggering the trap while disarming it. :/
And Jan can also use swords etc.

And Nalia...
Ugh! She actually managed to remind me of my aunt... Pretty disturbing that is...
And i can´t tolerate the type of a naive character they´ve made her to be...


Aerie? The best spell caster? Did someone say that? Yes? No? Should not write long messages; you forget what others have said before you have finished... [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Well she´s such an whiny...
And she does certainly not suit my main character... [img]tongue.gif[/img]
And jaheira i dumped when she was demanding me to come to the harper hold...
Bah, let the "cross-bred mongrel" -Viconia go harp with the harpies...


Maybe anomen is a better cleric than viconia, and probably a better warrior as well, but he is at least thrice as annoying... [img]tongue.gif[/img]
"The best leaders always follow" or what ever he says...
Besides, an self respecting jester with a weakness to pretty women would never even consider having an arrogant & ugly male instead of an pretty drow...
(Well, that´s pretty much the kind of a character i last completed the game with...)

[ 09-04-2003, 03:19 PM: Message edited by: Legos ]

[teardropmina]

Originally posted by Faceman: The reason Imoen is often considered weak is that once you rescue her your party is often higher in level than she is. Therefore she tends to be "the one with the low experience". But try a game with lots of party reforming you'll find that some other characters suffer the exact same setback at some point.

most of the time I take Imone alone regardlessly as I roleplay (my PC is usually good or netural)...low XP or not, she as a thief is servicible for the game and she as a mage is good enough to contribute...and our party can do just fine with or without her anyway...I of course will take my sis along^_*

[Legos]

I would consider twice before taking my sis along with my travels...
Hehehehehe...

[Faceman]

Originally posted by teardropmina: most of the time I take Imone alone regardlessly as I roleplay (my PC is usually good or netural)...low XP or not, she as a thief is servicible for the game and she as a mage is good enough to contribute...and our party can do just fine with or without her anyway...I of course will take my sis along^_*

That's what most people say - "I let her tag along, what do I care".
I LIKE her and like to use her abilities because Imoen can be a GREAT NPC with the right equipment and if you manage to fill the XP gap. And if you take her along to ToB it gets even more interesting. There are others I find far more useless (Nalia anyone?) and once you get her to these high levels she is unsurpassed in arcane skill by any other NPC (except for Edwin, but he can't even "Identify" [img]tongue.gif[/img] )

[pcgiant]

[img]tongue.gif[/img] Xen, you seem to contradict yourself quite often.

So IMHO Imoen is worth it no doubt. All NPC`s are. Well except maybe for Anomen. You did a great job by killing Anomen. Altough he is a better Cleric then Viconia.

[img]tongue.gif[/img] These statements don't really work together.

Anomen isn't really such a useless NPC.