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Old 07-14-2003, 05:38 PM   #11
Lemmy
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Zuvio:
However I'm not sure about Chaotic Commands and the like ... I never use those kind of protections against them.

CC's my staple anti-Umber Hulk spell. I never leave home without it. [img]smile.gif[/img]

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Old 07-14-2003, 08:03 PM   #12
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Originally posted by Zuvio:
The Umber Hulks use a seed to confuse their opponents, which means its not magical.
What do you mean they use a seed? In AD&D Umber Hulks use a gaze.
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Old 07-14-2003, 09:19 PM   #13
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Originally posted by Zuvio:
The Umber Hulks use a seed to confuse their opponents, which means its not magical. Spell Immunity->Enchantment therefore doesn't work. However I'm not sure about Chaotic Commands and the like ... I never use those kind of protections against them.
That "seed" is the umber hulk's innate Confusion ability. Spell Immunity won't block it, but potions and spells that protect against confusion will. (Like potions of clarity and the 5th level priest spell Chaotic Commands)

Stock UP on Chaotic Commands. If your PC isn't a cleric, I suggest you pick up Aerie, Anomen, Jaheira, Viconia, or Cernd, regardless of how much they whine or annoy you. (Maybe this is why all the romancable NPCs are priests?) This spell is useful against any enemy that casts confusion, domination, fear, psionic blast...

If you only have a potion of clarity or one CC memorized, make sure your tank gets it. (Doesn't hurt for your tank to have a low save vs. spells either.)Position him/her right by the door and have all your other party members either switch to ranged weapons or prepare to fire some Area of Effect gas spells like Stinking Cloud or Cloudkill. (Death Fog also does the trick if you've managed to find a scroll.) When your tank cracks the door, the umber hulks will try their best to confuse the hell out of him/her, which of course won't happen because of the Clarity potion or Chaotic Commands. Then have the rest of your party open fire on the critters.

(Be sure to aim your Cloudkills and such at about the middle of the room. Fire too close to the umber hulks and you risk sticking your tank in the middle of the cloud as well. Best to fire in the center of the room, have your tank walk to the edge of the cloud, and laugh triumphantly as the stupid umber hulks waddle to the edge of the cloud in order to attack, being sure to stay right in the area of effect for maximum damage. )
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Old 07-15-2003, 06:48 PM   #14
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There are a few items that protect from confusion - one not-so-subtle way of cleaning house might read something like :
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Minsc + Lilarcor + healing potions + ranged support = dead hulks
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