Is Firefox better then IE

[Hivetyrant]

Originally posted by Harkoliar: meh.. i find both useful. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Same, it's usually only stubborn people that cannot find the usefullness of both.
REGARDLESS of which has more benefits.

[Bungleau]

Meh. I've used Firefox for most things for at least a couple of years now. I bank on-line, I buy things with paypal, and do all sorts of transactions. Not a problem.

There are sites that are not compatible. For the most part, it's because the designer of the site isn't as clever as they think (IMHO). They parse a string that the browser sends to determine what browser you're using, and then decide if they're going to use it. Firefox has a plugin called... User Agent Switcher that lets you identify what you want to send back -- IE6, NS 4.8, or Opera 7.54 (on my older version of the plugin).

There are only a couple of places where I've run into issues. Our corporate web site is one (shame on them), and Trendmicro (who are probably an exception to the "not as clever as they think) bit. For those, I have to use IE. For everything else, FF.

Bottom line: use the tool you need. Don't fret over it.

[Leonis]

Two words:

Mac

Safari

[Dundee Slaytern]

Originally posted by Leonis: Two words: Mac Safari

One word:

Irrelevant. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[Sir Krustin]

Originally posted by SpiritWarrior: Well many banks still won't recognise it and reject it. Either your bank took the time to talk and register with the FF admins or their security is low - which is a bad thing in itself for online banking.

[img]graemlins/laugh3.gif[/img] What planet are you from? I wouldn't consider any bank that thinks IE is secure to be trustworthy. IE is THE MOST insecure browser out there. Just the fact that you are using Winblows (which is explicit in using IE) means you are insecure.

I got a virus last year that knocked out all my access to applications. I had to access the internet via run commands to bring up the browser. FF was my default browser at the time, and when I finally got to an online scanner it wouldnt let me use FF with it. Of course, all my access was locked out so I couldn't change my browser at all. If you get any kind of Desktop hijacker it can do this and give you problems. After that I deleted FF and never looked back. Until it replaces IE it isn't worth the risk or the hassle. Fast browsing isn't an issue for me. IE7 is liquid fast and rarely are the times any of us on broadband are sitting around waiting for pages to load anyways. Repent while you can and all will be forgiven.

You do realize that this behaviour you love is THE main vector for desktop infection by virii, don't you? The ability to install executable code through the IE browser (this is called ActiveX) is very, VERY dangerous - and the INability to do this is a feature for me, and many others - not a bug.

Oh, and if you are smart, you don't rely on an online scanner (which can be tricked if you are well and truly screwed by an infection), you prepare by having a scanner bootdisk - which will work even if your internet acces is hosed by the virus.

[Hivetyrant]

Originally posted by Sir Krustin: IE is THE MOST insecure browser out there.

Ever heard of IE7? Obviously not, you should look it up sometime

[Harkoliar]

Originally posted by Sir Krustin: quote: Originally posted by SpiritWarrior: Well many banks still won't recognise it and reject it. Either your bank took the time to talk and register with the FF admins or their security is low - which is a bad thing in itself for online banking.

[img]graemlins/laugh3.gif[/img] What planet are you from? I wouldn't consider any bank that thinks IE is secure to be trustworthy. IE is THE MOST insecure browser out there. Just the fact that you are using Winblows (which is explicit in using IE) means you are insecure.

I got a virus last year that knocked out all my access to applications. I had to access the internet via run commands to bring up the browser. FF was my default browser at the time, and when I finally got to an online scanner it wouldnt let me use FF with it. Of course, all my access was locked out so I couldn't change my browser at all. If you get any kind of Desktop hijacker it can do this and give you problems. After that I deleted FF and never looked back. Until it replaces IE it isn't worth the risk or the hassle. Fast browsing isn't an issue for me. IE7 is liquid fast and rarely are the times any of us on broadband are sitting around waiting for pages to load anyways. Repent while you can and all will be forgiven.

You do realize that this behaviour you love is THE main vector for desktop infection by virii, don't you? The ability to install executable code through the IE browser (this is called ActiveX) is very, VERY dangerous - and the INability to do this is a feature for me, and many others - not a bug.

Oh, and if you are smart, you don't rely on an online scanner (which can be tricked if you are well and truly screwed by an infection), you prepare by having a scanner bootdisk - which will work even if your internet acces is hosed by the virus. [/QUOTE]for IE
usually my feature for active x is either disabled or protected my anti-virus or firewall. If it ever pops up that it is installing some program, it ask me first before any installation occurs. But I dont believe it has ever installed something i disallowed in the past 3 years i have been using this computer.

[Iron Greasel]

I use Opera. And before that I used Firefox. And I would say that yes, Firefox is better than IE. Although I do admit that I might not have the best reseach material available. The IE they use at school is an old sucky one that has absolutely no support for even the most basic interface improvements that Firefox has had for years, such as tabs.

With Microsoft finally realizing that it has to actually occasionally update IE, issues with security are decreasing. Most cases of works-only-with-spesific-browser can be worked around. So you just have to pick a browser that looks nice and has an intuitive interface and doesn't spontaneously crash.

[SpiritWarrior]

Originally posted by Sir Krustin: quote: Originally posted by SpiritWarrior: Well many banks still won't recognise it and reject it. Either your bank took the time to talk and register with the FF admins or their security is low - which is a bad thing in itself for online banking.

[img]graemlins/laugh3.gif[/img] What planet are you from? I wouldn't consider any bank that thinks IE is secure to be trustworthy. IE is THE MOST insecure browser out there. Just the fact that you are using Winblows (which is explicit in using IE) means you are insecure.

I got a virus last year that knocked out all my access to applications. I had to access the internet via run commands to bring up the browser. FF was my default browser at the time, and when I finally got to an online scanner it wouldnt let me use FF with it. Of course, all my access was locked out so I couldn't change my browser at all. If you get any kind of Desktop hijacker it can do this and give you problems. After that I deleted FF and never looked back. Until it replaces IE it isn't worth the risk or the hassle. Fast browsing isn't an issue for me. IE7 is liquid fast and rarely are the times any of us on broadband are sitting around waiting for pages to load anyways. Repent while you can and all will be forgiven.

You do realize that this behaviour you love is THE main vector for desktop infection by virii, don't you? The ability to install executable code through the IE browser (this is called ActiveX) is very, VERY dangerous - and the INability to do this is a feature for me, and many others - not a bug.

Oh, and if you are smart, you don't rely on an online scanner (which can be tricked if you are well and truly screwed by an infection), you prepare by having a scanner bootdisk - which will work even if your internet acces is hosed by the virus. [/QUOTE]I think you are saying alot but managing to steer clear from anything that is in any way relevant. People, please re-read posts carefully and thoroughly before spewing paragraphs of these stupid assumptions and arrogant conclusions all the while patting yourself on the back for "saying what you feel". There is no need to be a rude prick about the fact that you disagree. It is enough that your reasons are retarded but atop this you have to come off as annoying AND clueless. Just, don't.

[Iron Greasel]

Originally posted by SpiritWarrior: quote: Sir Krustin said something about something else SpiritWarrior had said earlier, but the whole quote is really long so I'm skipping it. It's in the post above mine.

I think you are saying alot but managing to steer clear from anything that is in any way relevant. People, please re-read posts carefully and thoroughly before spewing paragraphs of these stupid assumptions and arrogant conclusions all the while patting yourself on the back for "saying what you feel". There is no need to be a rude prick about the fact that you disagree. It is enough that your reasons are retarded but atop this you have to come off as annoying AND clueless. Just, don't. [/QUOTE]I think you're both wrong. The other browser isn't necessarily really bad just because your browser is really good.