My Firefox is playing silly buggers with me...

[shamrock_uk]

Those two seem like complete idiots. Note however that we have no proof of their bugs since they won't disclose.

Larry, if you only need IE for one site then you can just get an 'open IE for this page' button to easily launch it?

The link you posted displays perfectly in Opera 9 by the way, so perhaps it is a Firefox gimmick.

And of course, if you're worried about security then it's a better choice anyway:

IE - 106 security advisories, 19 remain unpatched, highest unpatched severity is "extremely critical" (5/5).


Firefox - 36 security advisories, 3 unpatched, highest unpatched severity is "less critical" (2/5).

Opera 9 - 1 security advisory, none are unpatched.

And just because Opera 9 hasn't been out that long:

Opera 8 - 15 security advisories, none unpatched.

It is a mystery why people use anything else.

[ 10-03-2006, 11:39 AM: Message edited by: shamrock_uk ]

[ZFR]

Originally posted by shamrock_uk: It is a mystery why people use anything else.

I hated the interface - especially the tabs. I used opera only for a few days a year ago at a friend's comp when my PC was off. Everytime I opened a new page it would open a new tab, rather than new window, which for me was annoying and put me off opera. I suppose it is possible to change this in settings, but I just didn't bother and downloaded Firefox. Never had security issues with firefox either.

I'll be getting something else now since firefox is starting to annoy me too. Too slow and getting "server not found" too often. I've checked the opera 9 screenshots and the interface seems better, so if there is a way to disable multi-tabs altogether I might go for it. But I've been hearing good things about IE7 from everyone who's used it so I might go for that...

[Bungleau]

Originally posted by Larry_OHF: I just got off the phone with the help desk at USC. Sorry I could not do it yesterday. The guy told me that they recommend Internet Explorer, and that they are using version 6. He said that the reason that Firefox is not working right for you is because of its design to disable all the codes and features that a website has that Firefox thinks might be dangerous, and that it does not understand the difference in safe sites such as their university page. He said that Explorer can be programmed to only accept sites that you know are safe and that it would therefore run even better than Firefox would, and give you the same security as Firefox does, since it would be blocking all unproven sites from running their unproven features. It just proved to me after this phone call (and your previous post) that Firefox is not worth my time.

Without having heard the conversation, Larry, it sounds like you got the "I don't know it so don't use it" speech. Firefox does allow you to open up permissions on specific sites, so it's a question of knowledge (or lack thereof).

Besides, didn't they say they supported FF on the site? Or am I just dis-remembering?

[Bozos of Bones]

ZFR, you are the first person I know of who is actually annoyed by the tabs. I find them the best intarweb invention ever, most handy they be.
Plus, Firefox will not allow itself to be opened more than once, which means, you can have 51234252 Firefox windows, and they'll all use the memory of just one. The same cannot be said for IE.
So seriously, FF>IE.
And I've never seen FF be any slower, or open less pages than IE. Sure, some morons still design websites with just IE in mind, but for every that kind of moron, you have one kind of idiot who designs pages strictly for Firefox, so it evens out. And as opposed to IE, you can actually train Firefox to open IE-only pages through liberal use of about:config.

[Larry_OHF]

Originally posted by Bungleau: [QB] didn't they say they supported FF on the site? Or am I just dis-remembering?

No, I was referring to another site to show how some sites that know they do, will say so.

[Memnoch]

Originally posted by shamrock_uk: Those two seem like complete idiots. Note however that we have no proof of their bugs since they won't disclose. Larry, if you only need IE for one site then you can just get an 'open IE for this page' button to easily launch it? The link you posted displays perfectly in Opera 9 by the way, so perhaps it is a Firefox gimmick. And of course, if you're worried about security then it's a better choice anyway: IE - 106 security advisories, 19 remain unpatched, highest unpatched severity is "extremely critical" (5/5). Firefox - 36 security advisories, 3 unpatched, highest unpatched severity is "less critical" (2/5). Opera 9 - 1 security advisory, none are unpatched. And just because Opera 9 hasn't been out that long: Opera 8 - 15 security advisories, none unpatched. It is a mystery why people use anything else.

Shamrock, I heard that Opera is really slow. Is this true?

[Luvian]

I'm using Firefox, and not only has my general surfing experience been great, I've only ever ran into one problem, 7-8 updates ago, so personally I'm satisfied.

I may give Opera a try, but I moved from IE to Fireox so I'm not really interested in such a major change again yet.

[Dundee Slaytern]

In response to Memnoch's linked article,

Backpedal

Cheers.

[Dundee Slaytern]

With regards to Firefox, I do admit that it is far from perfect( by my wants at least), but it has satisfied me thus far.

Most of the features I wish it had, are relatively minor, and not patience-breaking.

[shamrock_uk]

Re the security bug, it looks like those two idiots have back-tracked.

After reviewing the flaw, Mozilla published a posting on its developer blog downplaying the seriousness of the bug, initially reported by El Reg and other news outlets as creating a means for hackers to execute hostile code on Windows, Mac OS X and Linux PCs. The posting contains an agreed statement by Spiegelmock in which the security researcher backtracks on claims made during the talk that Firefox was riddled with security bugs.

"As part of our talk we mentioned that there was a previously knownFirefox vulnerability that could result in a stack overflow ending up in remote code execution. However, I have not succeeded in making this code do anything more than cause a crash and eat up system resources, and I certainly haven’t used it to take over anyone else’s computer and execute arbitrary code," the statement reads.

Originally posted by Memnoch: Shamrock, I heard that Opera is really slow. Is this true?

In my experience, it flies. The browser speed comparisons site seems to offer a fairly thorough comparison.

[ 10-04-2006, 05:11 AM: Message edited by: shamrock_uk ]