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Old 06-07-2003, 04:14 PM   #11
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anyway powerfully useless item I find never stays in my inventory long enough for me to remember it's name, but I do remember the Azure edge being pretty useless. but as for normal weapons I'd have to go for a quarterstaff or sling, you can't even sell those.
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Old 06-07-2003, 09:45 PM   #12
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Spydar,
I can understand your point concerning staffs (staves whatever) as I rarely use two handed weapons with the exception of swords. But slings are excellent for a number of reasons. You should check them out a little better. I've seen both Jahiera and Anomen deal out some serious damge with them. Not only is it the most effective ranged weapon for clerics and mages but since it allows the use of shields I have I've equipped characters who can use bows with slings and been happy with the results.(Better armor class)
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Old 06-07-2003, 09:47 PM   #13
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Magic items- I would have to say the anything of infravision, since you can just enable party infravision.
Non magic item- bucklers
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Old 06-07-2003, 10:29 PM   #14
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What about the Shazellim (sp., i know its wrong)+1 scimitar...almost automatically kills bards, eh? too bad you get it way after the time you do anything to do with the harpers (and there's what, three of them?). And i don't see many bards anywhere, unless i just want to kill haer-daelis...just for kicks, ya know...
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Old 06-07-2003, 10:35 PM   #15
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Yeah, what use is the Helm of Infravision, other than covering my head and protecting me from critical hits?
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Old 06-07-2003, 10:43 PM   #16
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Selling it is the most use I ever got out of it in BG2..
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Old 06-07-2003, 10:59 PM   #17
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Yeah, what use is the Helm of Infravision, other than covering my head and protecting me from critical hits?
Yes, I definitely agree about the Helm of Infravision. Definitely worthless, since infravision is pretty worthless anyway.

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Like the Bastard Sword +3 against shapeshifters which would have been great in BG1 but makes no sense in SoA - or the Harmonium Halberd.
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Are you kidding me? +3 weapons that are available practically right out of Chateau Irenicus, and they are worthless? In fact, if you play a fighter that uses halberds, the Harmonium Halberd is strong enough (with the +1 strength) to take you through most of SoA. Admittedly, the bastard sword is not that great, but if your character took bastard sword proficiency (first game and didn't know any better), that is a decent weapon right at the beginning of the game (it blows later, but still not too bad).
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Old 06-07-2003, 11:06 PM   #18
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the problem with the shapeshifter killing bastard sword is it only hits as a +1 weapon (unlike similar items like the warhammer +1/+4vs giantkin), if it were fixed it'd be better.

I think the complaint against azure-edge is based on the buggy version the game gives you, if you get the baldurdsh fixpack it should be a decent weapon.
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Old 06-08-2003, 09:00 AM   #19
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Jester's Chain, for example. You miss the boots of Speed, and you get an armor that is good only for bards. And bards cannot cast spells while it is equipped...
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Old 06-08-2003, 09:39 AM   #20
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Originally posted by Dadams1:
Yeah, what use is the Helm of Infravision, other than covering my head and protecting me from critical hits?
Yes, I definitely agree about the Helm of Infravision. Definitely worthless, since infravision is pretty worthless anyway.

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Like the Bastard Sword +3 against shapeshifters which would have been great in BG1 but makes no sense in SoA - or the Harmonium Halberd.
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Are you kidding me? +3 weapons that are available practically right out of Chateau Irenicus, and they are worthless? In fact, if you play a fighter that uses halberds, the Harmonium Halberd is strong enough (with the +1 strength) to take you through most of SoA. Admittedly, the bastard sword is not that great, but if your character took bastard sword proficiency (first game and didn't know any better), that is a decent weapon right at the beginning of the game (it blows later, but still not too bad).
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[/QUOTE]Bastard Swords OWNZors in TOB. At this point, I dont know too many people who dont have it...

Anyhow, you got two +5s from Bastard swords, where other weapon types usually only get 1! I mean, just imagine Kensai/Thief or Wiz/Thief or Inquisitor dual wielding them, very powerful indeed.
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