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Old 05-21-2003, 03:51 AM   #11
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Originally posted by SixOfSpades:
How can her party be low on Tanks when she's got 2 Tanks and 2 Backup Tanks? Sounds perfectly fine to me, as far as pure Butt-Kicking-For-Goodness goes. And....Faceman? How precisely would Lynn go about using the RotR on those two particular Cowled Wizards?
You are perfectly right there's certainly need of a thief here. Yet I still don't think that the tanks in this party are great. They are fighters by name but IMHO Valygar and Jaheira suck in melee combat and Minsc is only good if handled correctly. Only real backup with ranged weapon here would be Valygar again. So this leaves us with max 2 chars able to engage melee with the demon without being ripped apart in one or two hits (especially at this level).
And pardon me. Pickpocketing ~somebody~ has become a standard thing to do for me every time I play SoA. So I kinda take the RotR for granted at the beginning of the game like the Ring of Regeneration.

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Old 05-21-2003, 04:59 AM   #12
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I agree that Jaheira sucks at melee, but just if she is the foremost tank. Make whatever foe that needs tanking busy with other chars and bring in Jaheira. Casting Ironskins will also improve her tanking skills. In fact, with Ironskins she becomes pretty tankish. Sometimes I used her as a decoy for enemy archers to provide my fighters safe passage to the melee range [img]smile.gif[/img] And she withstood it, without even dropping her Ironskins. That fact made me want to solo a druid sometime...

ADD]Valygar can be a reserver tank (covering your mages if something comes from behind) in lower levels. Thats all due to his poisoned katana, which is great for beginning, and its pretty much the case now [img]smile.gif[/img]

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Old 05-21-2003, 05:36 AM   #13
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Jaheira sucks in melee? at the start maybe! but give her the Red Dragon Armour, a nice club and a certain pair of gauntlets that increase her STR to 19 (i forget which ones) and she kicks butt! True she's not as good as Anomen or my PC (Ranger), but she packs a punch.

I used to think she was a waste of space but after a time she becomes quite useful!
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Old 05-21-2003, 05:38 AM   #14
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Heh, so did it happen in my case. Her Fire Elementals alone make her worth staying [img]smile.gif[/img] Nevermind the fact that she was my sweetheart last game...
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Old 05-21-2003, 06:16 AM   #15
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Oooooooh! Jaheira and TaSSaDaR sittin in a tree! K..I..S..S..I..N..G! i feel like i'm back in school! hehehe [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-21-2003, 06:28 AM   #16
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[img]smile.gif[/img] Sitting in a tree... why not? Will have to practice it in the Real Life Realm someday with my present game girlfriend Too sad I won't have my Ring Of Human Influence on - she may be frightened a bit....

As for TaSSaDaR & Jaheira case... we were not sitting. And we were not kissing [img]smile.gif[/img] In fact, not only [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-21-2003, 06:32 AM   #17
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Hehehe, tis an old song we used to sing in school to tease people who liked another classmate (well in england, not sure about russia and elsewhere) - my romance with Jahiera seems to have fizzled out think its cos she's dropped dead a few times and then been reanimated (seen that film? its great!) by Anomen - i suppose being yanked between life and death all the time will do something to you after a time!
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Old 05-21-2003, 06:41 AM   #18
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Sorry for breaking your joke, here we had quite an other way to do the same thing (but it was still a song [img]smile.gif[/img] )

AFAIK being killed and reanimated breaks romance. As being petrified does. Or you just may have said something stupid to her.

Heh, let us not discuss Jaheira romance (or any other) in the Tanar'ri slaying thread [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-21-2003, 06:49 AM   #19
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Okey doke, see ya! [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-21-2003, 07:11 PM   #20
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I would consider all remarks about pickpocketable Rings to be spoilerish, since this is almost certainly Lynn's first game. Dundee (or other moderator), spoiler tags please?

It's reasonably safe to assume that Lynn's Fighter has good Tanking stats, Minsc can definitely Tank (he may have points in 2-handed weapons, but that doesn't prevent him from using a Shield if he wants to), and Valygar and Jaheira both have what it takes to Tank in this situation--THAC0 and Saving Throws. The Tanar'ri is only a formidable melee opponent if you've been Held.
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