Tymora's Gamble

[Dundee Slaytern]

Just a little quibble on the items I think up of. I tend not to go for the power factor, but for the fun/roleplay factor. One of my favourite ideas is still the Squirrel Staff, where the target must make a save or be polymorphed into a squirrel when struck.

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[Dundee Slaytern]

Originally posted by Alson: LOL! How... elegant. [img]tongue.gif[/img] The current solution still suffers from two flaws: (1) It will also remove other combat protection, which is no good.

That is why it is called a gamble. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

(2) It does not remove the Certain ToB Weapon protection, as it's an item effect.

What if I phrase your reply as such? "It forces you to equip a certain ToB weapon".

(2.5) It's... unstylish. Jan will disapprove.

Pretty sparkle effects then?

How about, instead of going the "Breach and then" route, you try messing around with "Remove Effect : Death Ward"? It should be possible... and it shouldn't be complicated.

Nah, I want the consequences to be dire. This is a weapon from a pissed-off Goddess. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Malthaussen]

The collateral fallout from using "Breach" does, however, indirectly address my point about the weapon being too balanced for the story. Although that wasn't it's intent. [img]smile.gif[/img] Having all of one's combat protections stripped on a single roll of the dice makes using the weapon more of a gamble.

Edit: Goodness, I need to type faster or something. [img]smile.gif[/img]

-- Mal

[ 04-22-2003, 10:22 AM: Message edited by: Malthaussen ]

[Vedran]

Originally posted by ShadowChild: Seeing as people seem to be fiddling around and creating some decent and imaginative items of late - is there anywhere we could put them for all to see? maybe a little home made items page? Just a thought [img]smile.gif[/img]

If anybody needs their item uploaded, feel free to contact me. My homepage is quite empty right now...

[Annatar]

I can to, fullfill that subscription...

Maybe we can just raise an IW custom Item site

*Me raises a YES sign*

Mean me...hé? [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

[Pirengle]

Let me add something to that idea you've got there, Annatar...

What about an Ironworks merchant mod selling all these wonderful items? I think there should be somebody in the Umar Hills or the Temple District selling something useful. IEEP has the storemaker option, and I've played around with it, as well as a few items and spells of my own. (Ranger gauntlets! Wizard Slayer helmets! Irenicus' Sadist Leathers of Constriction! (scroll for it) Because I just had to do it! )

I wonder how hard it would be to take a cat avatar, name it Chocolate, and have her (him?) sell/buy/ID items.

EDIT: As for Tymora's Gamble, why not a save penalty of 2 on hits for both user and target, as well as being nonfunctional with that certain ToB item? (Since I don't know what that item is--and don't want to be spoiled on it--have you thought about prohibiting the morning star from certain classes to prevent its use with that item?

[ 04-22-2003, 01:58 PM: Message edited by: Pirengle ]

[SixOfSpades]

NOT USABLE BY WILD MAGES??? SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!

I'm surprised that nobody's pointed out that any serious Tank will have a field day with this thing: Their Saves will shrug off the Disintegrate, Flesh to Stone, and Finger of Death, and their Magic Resistance may very well block the Maze. If they're a pure Warrior, who cares about being Breached? And if they've been using the FoA, they'll have those weapon points already sitting in Flail, right where they want them.

I would make it a Staff: Much less likely to be used by a Tank, and Wild Mages would have a ball.

[daan]

I'm surprised that nobody's pointed out that any serious Tank will have a field day with this thing

[quote]Originally posted by Alson:

It's not about hit points - it's about saves. Since in the late stages of SoA (and there's no way this is a early/mid stage weapon) enemies tend to make their saves about 75% of the time, the effects are quite problematic. On the other hand, it keeps the weapon from being over-the-top powerful - which is a good thing. [img]smile.gif[/img]

and their Magic Resistance may very well block the Maze

EDIT: QUOTE ... awh, have to start editing faster

[ 04-22-2003, 02:59 PM: Message edited by: daan ]

[SixOfSpades]

Alson was talking about enemies making their Saves, not the user. Although I did goof when I mentioned the Tank's MR blocking the Maze, since the weapon nullifies MR (each time it's swung, as a matter of fact).

[Vedran]

What about this:
1% chance Breach, lower Magic Resistance to 0% for one second and Flesh to Stone is casted on the user
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