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Old 04-08-2003, 04:51 PM   #11
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Underdark-Kuo-Toa area- near Demoforgon`s statue
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Old 04-08-2003, 05:05 PM   #12
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Old 04-08-2003, 05:08 PM   #13
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well im glad i asked kaz i completely missed luckily i havent left that area yet.
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Old 04-08-2003, 06:40 PM   #14
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Originally posted by LadyLuthien:
I'm also playing a Cavalier, and have no intention of using Carsomyr. Personally, I find it unfair that the really good paladin sword is a two handed weapon. I have my character specialized in the sword and shield style, and don't want to give up the use of the shield.

This game really needs a Steal Enchantment spell.
Well...you might want to get TOB then (SPOILERS as to why...)
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There happens to be a nice bastard sword which is much like a mini-carsomyr. It's even available in Watcher's Keep- which is accessible while you're still in the main game of SOA.
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Old 04-08-2003, 09:15 PM   #15
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I think it's practically part of the whole Cavalier mythos to fight with a sword and shield. Carsomyr has always struck me as the ideal weapon for normal holy Paladins, but the Cavalier to my mind has an element of derring-do that makes him stand out from the Holy Preacher Warrior crowd.

You could indeed try Bastard Swords. If you can't fight through to get the sword mentioned above, you can get a decent Bastard Sword and some other cheerful Paladin-inspired items by finishing just the first level of Watcher's Keep.

[ 04-08-2003, 09:17 PM: Message edited by: Tancred ]
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Old 04-09-2003, 08:58 PM   #16
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Technically under the rules, a Cavalier is required to use a shield to carry his coat of arms and because a shield symbolizes defense. They are forbidden to use two handed weapons.

Nice to see somebody roleplaying and policing themselves.
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Old 04-10-2003, 12:04 AM   #17
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Yes, totally agree about the Paladins shouldn't use 2-handed weapons thing. I generally picture 2-handed weapons as being for berserker type fighters or barbarians, not the well-manered and politically correct paladin. And when you think about it, a cavralir (sp?) is supposed to be the famous dragon fighting hero, and really, have you EVER seen a picture of a knight fighting a dragon without a shield? Probably not.
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Old 04-10-2003, 09:22 AM   #18
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in 1st edition when Unearthed arcana came out there was a specific prohibition against cavaliers (of which paladins were a subclass) using range weapons, including missile weapons, polearms, and two handed swords, i've always felt the best way to roleplay the paladin was along the same lines, and though i rarely rp a PnP cavalier, i tend to stay away from ranged weapons for rp reasons
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Old 04-10-2003, 12:13 PM   #19
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Even mounted on horseback, the Cavalier used a shield along with his lance.

A shield is what defines a Cavalier. Remember the AD&D cartoons? The kid that got turned into a Cavalier got a shield as his main weapon.

One thing missing from the Cavalier's list of attacks was the shield bash. Small shields did tiny amounts of damage, while large shields could be quite brutal. The magical defensive value of a shield determined the to hit. (A +3 Shield of Defense for example, could hit Liches and Greater Mummies) The damage was only so so, the real use for shield bashing was the chance to either disarm your foe or stun them.
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