No more nasty, personal-attack sarcasm in posts, please - respect others - Page 2

Memnoch · 11-29-2001, 07:44 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Fljotsdale:

Well, if the two major actors in the universe can use sarcasm.....! [img]graemlins/evilhaha.gif[/img]

Is this supposed to be funny, F? I don't find it funny at all. Obviously you don't agree with what I said. Why not say so directly, like SC did at least? What does your post above have to do with my point of not using sarcasm as it can demean others? Please explain to me the part that's meant to be funny or relevant to what I originally said, which I thought was quite valid.

Argus · 11-29-2001, 07:46 AM

Memnoch, please don't think that we are not appreciative of the amount of work that goes into moderating a forum in general, and a war/serious discussions forum in particular. I hope that the new PM feature will cut down on some of the "sparring" and move your job back to moderator from "referee".

Anyway, thanks for keeping the forum in place, I find it both enjoyable and informative...

Several times I've caught myself thinking, "Good point Ronn!" followed by reading a response and thinking, "Good counterpoint Ryanamur!" or "I didn't know that, thanks SC!" I like the critical thinking that goes on here...healthy debates are far more interesting than non-interactive forms of entertainment.

Just my 2 cents

Fljotsdale · 11-29-2001, 09:22 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Memnoch:

Is this supposed to be funny, F? I don't find it funny at all. Obviously you don't agree with what I said. Why not say so directly, like SC did at least? What does your post above have to do with my point of not using sarcasm as it can demean others? Please explain to me the part that's meant to be funny or relevant to what I originally said, which I thought was quite valid.

Ye gods, Memnoch! That was in response to a post by someone else! HE was trying to be funny (I think!) and so I responed in kind!
What's got into you? You don't normally pick up up on every triviality in the book!
I'll send you a PM

Memnoch · 11-29-2001, 09:44 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Fljotsdale:

Ye gods, Memnoch! That was in response to a post by someone else! HE was trying to be funny (I think!) and so I responed in kind!
What's got into you? You don't normally pick up up on every triviality in the book!
I'll send you a PM

F, you guys have the luxury of just posting. I'm the one who gets my inbox and PM box filled with emails complaining about one thing or another in here. I'm the one who has to keep everyone happy and check every thread for content, which I don't have to do with any other forum. Try and look at this situation from my eyes.

If you didn't plan to do this intentionally, then it's a pretty damn tactless time AND thread to do it in. You should exercise better judgment. What you did is like posting a "100 Great Things About Trolls" list in a warning thread that I've just posted to a troll. You know what I mean?

I'm not going to keep repeating myself, so this will be my final words. I trust the message has come through loud and clear. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Yorick · 11-29-2001, 12:27 PM

You know, I don't get this double standards stuff at all.

I've been reprimanded in the past. If some of the guys are friends with me is that a crime? I actually listen more to a subtler rebuke from a friend.

Rebukes are all relative.

The most stinging word I ever got was from Absynthe.

Bummer that.

Could I perhaps ask in as gentle a tone as possible, that people get off my case?????

Do we have so few hours in the day that we have to scan every moderators post to ascertain whether enough moderatorship has been applied to someone we disagree with? There is such a thing as emails!! Not every communication is public.

I thought this forum was a place of enjoyment and communication, not poison laced arguments. If I wanted constant criticisms I'd get a wife.

(Aussie wives are the most argumentative in the world according to a Singaporean paper I read yesterday...

)

Anyhow, I've been posting in the I.W. BG forums of late - not here in ASB.

Getting back to why I came here in the first place. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Fljotsdale · 11-29-2001, 01:21 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Yorick:

Anyhow, I've been posting in the I.W. BG forums of late - not here in ASB.

Getting back to why I came here in the first place. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Me too, actually..... but having long religious debates with you was MUCH more fun, lol!

Yorick · 11-29-2001, 01:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Fljotsdale:

Me too, actually..... but having long religious debates with you was MUCH more fun, lol!

Maybe for you. My relationship with God is more to me than just points to be scored or debated.

You were only ever looking at things from one angle, and I could never convice you otherwise.

All logos and no rhema for Fljotsdale....

Also certain people started ridiculing and insulting me and Christian beliefs, and I don't enjoy that at all. In the middle of yours and my "intelligent debate" threads too.

Yorick · 11-29-2001, 02:46 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Zbyszek:

OOC: Whats wrong with trolls? According to Pratchett and new version of Middle Earth history they are great and peacefull (maybe little slow in brain - Pratchett) persons [img]smile.gif[/img]
I would say: hands off trolls!!!

Zbys, a Troll is internetese for a rude, abusive, lewd poster.

Fljotsdale · 11-29-2001, 08:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Yorick:

Maybe for you. My relationship with God is more to me than just points to be scored or debated.

You were only ever looking at things from one angle, and I could never convice you otherwise.

All logos and no rhema for Fljotsdale....

Also certain people started ridiculing and insulting me and Christian beliefs, and I don't enjoy that at all. In the middle of yours and my "intelligent debate" threads too.

Yes, that was a pity. People who have a genuine belief, and put that belief into operation in their lives by showing love for their fellow humans (and ALL life on earth) do not deserve mockery, but respect.
I disagree with some beliefs, as you know, but I have always maintained that Jesus was a great and remarkable man, and people who try their utmost to follow his example and teachings are among the best people on the face of the earth. Sadly, not all who claim christianity are practicers of Jesus teachings, which is one reason people mock believers. Another reason is that they are actually lacking in real knowledge of what Jesus taught.
I like watching/listening to quiz programmes and I am horrified by how often a simple question about a bible subject is met by a blank stare. I find it unbelieveable that this country can have gone from everyone knowing basic bible teachings/personalities to almost total ignorance during my lifetime. Its no wonder morals and standards and respect have virtually vanished.
Gosh! I sound just like my grandmother!

Ladyzekke · 11-29-2001, 09:19 PM

I liked your post there F, but seeing that you are an athiest, must wonder... ?? You believe Jesus was a great man? Does not match up with being an athiest. Please I hope you weren't posting a spiteful sarcastic jab at Yorick. I'm figuring I'm misunderstanding you most likely, so just maybe rephrase what you meant so I can understand more clearly?

11-29-2001, 07:44 AM	#11
Memnoch Ironworks Moderator Join Date: February 28, 2001 Location: Boston/Sydney Posts: 11,771	quote: Originally posted by Fljotsdale: Well, if the two major actors in the universe can use sarcasm.....! [img]graemlins/evilhaha.gif[/img] Is this supposed to be funny, F? I don't find it funny at all. Obviously you don't agree with what I said. Why not say so directly, like SC did at least? What does your post above have to do with my point of not using sarcasm as it can demean others? Please explain to me the part that's meant to be funny or relevant to what I originally said, which I thought was quite valid. __________________

11-29-2001, 09:22 AM	#13
Fljotsdale Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom Join Date: March 12, 2001 Location: Birmingham, West Mid\'s, England Age: 88 Posts: 2,859	quote: Originally posted by Memnoch: Is this supposed to be funny, F? I don't find it funny at all. Obviously you don't agree with what I said. Why not say so directly, like SC did at least? What does your post above have to do with my point of not using sarcasm as it can demean others? Please explain to me the part that's meant to be funny or relevant to what I originally said, which I thought was quite valid. Ye gods, Memnoch! That was in response to a post by someone else! HE was trying to be funny (I think!) and so I responed in kind! What's got into you? You don't normally pick up up on every triviality in the book! I'll send you a PM __________________ I\'m your imaginary friend.

11-29-2001, 09:44 AM	#14
Memnoch Ironworks Moderator Join Date: February 28, 2001 Location: Boston/Sydney Posts: 11,771	quote: Originally posted by Fljotsdale: Ye gods, Memnoch! That was in response to a post by someone else! HE was trying to be funny (I think!) and so I responed in kind! What's got into you? You don't normally pick up up on every triviality in the book! I'll send you a PM F, you guys have the luxury of just posting. I'm the one who gets my inbox and PM box filled with emails complaining about one thing or another in here. I'm the one who has to keep everyone happy and check every thread for content, which I don't have to do with any other forum. Try and look at this situation from my eyes. If you didn't plan to do this intentionally, then it's a pretty damn tactless time AND thread to do it in. You should exercise better judgment. What you did is like posting a "100 Great Things About Trolls" list in a warning thread that I've just posted to a troll. You know what I mean? I'm not going to keep repeating myself, so this will be my final words. I trust the message has come through loud and clear. [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________

11-29-2001, 12:27 PM	#15
Yorick Very Mad Bird Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Breukelen (over the river from New Amsterdam) Age: 53 Posts: 9,246	You know, I don't get this double standards stuff at all. I've been reprimanded in the past. If some of the guys are friends with me is that a crime? I actually listen more to a subtler rebuke from a friend. Rebukes are all relative. The most stinging word I ever got was from Absynthe. Bummer that. Could I perhaps ask in as gentle a tone as possible, that people get off my case????? Do we have so few hours in the day that we have to scan every moderators post to ascertain whether enough moderatorship has been applied to someone we disagree with? There is such a thing as emails!! Not every communication is public. I thought this forum was a place of enjoyment and communication, not poison laced arguments. If I wanted constant criticisms I'd get a wife. (Aussie wives are the most argumentative in the world according to a Singaporean paper I read yesterday... ) Anyhow, I've been posting in the I.W. BG forums of late - not here in ASB. Getting back to why I came here in the first place. [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ http://www.hughwilson.com

11-29-2001, 01:21 PM	#16
Fljotsdale Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom Join Date: March 12, 2001 Location: Birmingham, West Mid\'s, England Age: 88 Posts: 2,859	quote: Originally posted by Yorick: Anyhow, I've been posting in the I.W. BG forums of late - not here in ASB. Getting back to why I came here in the first place. [img]smile.gif[/img] Me too, actually..... but having long religious debates with you was MUCH more fun, lol! __________________ I\'m your imaginary friend.

11-29-2001, 07:46 AM	#12
Argus The Magister Join Date: June 7, 2001 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 111	Memnoch, please don't think that we are not appreciative of the amount of work that goes into moderating a forum in general, and a war/serious discussions forum in particular. I hope that the new PM feature will cut down on some of the "sparring" and move your job back to moderator from "referee". Anyway, thanks for keeping the forum in place, I find it both enjoyable and informative... Several times I've caught myself thinking, "Good point Ronn!" followed by reading a response and thinking, "Good counterpoint Ryanamur!" or "I didn't know that, thanks SC!" I like the critical thinking that goes on here...healthy debates are far more interesting than non-interactive forms of entertainment. Just my 2 cents

11-29-2001, 01:32 PM	#17
Yorick Very Mad Bird Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Breukelen (over the river from New Amsterdam) Age: 53 Posts: 9,246	quote: Originally posted by Fljotsdale: Me too, actually..... but having long religious debates with you was MUCH more fun, lol! Maybe for you. My relationship with God is more to me than just points to be scored or debated. You were only ever looking at things from one angle, and I could never convice you otherwise. All logos and no rhema for Fljotsdale.... Also certain people started ridiculing and insulting me and Christian beliefs, and I don't enjoy that at all. In the middle of yours and my "intelligent debate" threads too. __________________ http://www.hughwilson.com

11-29-2001, 02:46 PM	#18
Yorick Very Mad Bird Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Breukelen (over the river from New Amsterdam) Age: 53 Posts: 9,246	quote: Originally posted by Zbyszek: OOC: Whats wrong with trolls? According to Pratchett and new version of Middle Earth history they are great and peacefull (maybe little slow in brain - Pratchett) persons [img]smile.gif[/img] I would say: hands off trolls!!! Zbys, a Troll is internetese for a rude, abusive, lewd poster. __________________ http://www.hughwilson.com

11-29-2001, 08:29 PM	#19
Fljotsdale Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom Join Date: March 12, 2001 Location: Birmingham, West Mid\'s, England Age: 88 Posts: 2,859	quote: Originally posted by Yorick: Maybe for you. My relationship with God is more to me than just points to be scored or debated. You were only ever looking at things from one angle, and I could never convice you otherwise. All logos and no rhema for Fljotsdale.... Also certain people started ridiculing and insulting me and Christian beliefs, and I don't enjoy that at all. In the middle of yours and my "intelligent debate" threads too. Yes, that was a pity. People who have a genuine belief, and put that belief into operation in their lives by showing love for their fellow humans (and ALL life on earth) do not deserve mockery, but respect. I disagree with some beliefs, as you know, but I have always maintained that Jesus was a great and remarkable man, and people who try their utmost to follow his example and teachings are among the best people on the face of the earth. Sadly, not all who claim christianity are practicers of Jesus teachings, which is one reason people mock believers. Another reason is that they are actually lacking in real knowledge of what Jesus taught. I like watching/listening to quiz programmes and I am horrified by how often a simple question about a bible subject is met by a blank stare. I find it unbelieveable that this country can have gone from everyone knowing basic bible teachings/personalities to almost total ignorance during my lifetime. Its no wonder morals and standards and respect have virtually vanished. Gosh! I sound just like my grandmother! __________________ I\'m your imaginary friend.

11-29-2001, 09:19 PM	#20
Ladyzekke Ironworks Atomic Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Virginia, U.S.A. Age: 58 Posts: 9,005	I liked your post there F, but seeing that you are an athiest, must wonder... ?? You believe Jesus was a great man? Does not match up with being an athiest. Please I hope you weren't posting a spiteful sarcastic jab at Yorick. I'm figuring I'm misunderstanding you most likely, so just maybe rephrase what you meant so I can understand more clearly? __________________ Reality Show Recaps

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