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Old 12-25-2002, 04:36 PM   #11
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You can find this stuff in the Silmarillion, Lost Tales (my two favorite Tolkien books), and possibly in Letters. Great reads.

Cheers and happy christmas to those who celebrate it
<font color="gold">As well as Unfinished Tales.

Merry Christmas to you as well. [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>
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Old 12-26-2002, 03:23 AM   #12
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There are also stacks of reference books written by obsessed 'Tolkienologists' which portray the info/events of his world in a different light. Gives a much more detailed understanding than just reading the Tolkien's stuff.
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Old 12-29-2002, 04:19 PM   #13
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</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Gammit:
You can find this stuff in the Silmarillion, Lost Tales (my two favorite Tolkien books), and possibly in Letters. Great reads.

Cheers and happy christmas to those who celebrate it
<font color="gold">As well as Unfinished Tales.

Merry Christmas to you as well. [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>
</font>[/QUOTE]Are all of Tolkeins books based in Middle Earth?
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Old 12-29-2002, 05:29 PM   #14
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</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Sir Exxon:
<font color="gold">As well as Unfinished Tales.

Merry Christmas to you as well. [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>
Are all of Tolkeins books based in Middle Earth?[/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]<font color="gold">Oh no, not at all. I've read only a small amount of Tolkiens other books, namely:
Smith of Wooten (sp?) Major
Farmer Giles of Ham
The Father Chistmas Letter
Trees and Leaves

None of these are based in Middle-Earth. </font>
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Old 01-02-2003, 03:44 PM   #15
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It should also be noted that all the rings were originally intended for the elves. Sauron's plan was to control the 19 most powerful elves with the One. But when he forged it, they knew immediatly that they had been betrayed and removed their rings. Sauron came North and slew Celebrimbor (the maker of the Three) and took the 16 rings he had helped make. Because he hadn't participated in the making of the Three, he wasn't able to find them. The keepers of the Three were unable to wear their rings until the defeat of Sauron at Dagorlad.
I thought the seven dwarf rings remained under dwarven control and were either lost or destroyed by dragons? And that the dwarves were too tenacious to control like the Men were.
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Old 01-02-2003, 07:04 PM   #16
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</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Billy Yank:
It should also be noted that all the rings were originally intended for the elves. Sauron's plan was to control the 19 most powerful elves with the One. But when he forged it, they knew immediatly that they had been betrayed and removed their rings. Sauron came North and slew Celebrimbor (the maker of the Three) and took the 16 rings he had helped make. Because he hadn't participated in the making of the Three, he wasn't able to find them. The keepers of the Three were unable to wear their rings until the defeat of Sauron at Dagorlad.
I thought the seven dwarf rings remained under dwarven control and were either lost or destroyed by dragons? And that the dwarves were too tenacious to control like the Men were.</font>[/QUOTE]Yes... but Sauron only gave the Rings to the Dwarves after he had taken them back. There were not seven dwarf-specific rings; it just so happens that the Dwarves were split into seven clans, and each had a ruler - and so seven Rings were given to the Dwarves.

The film gies a different picture. [img]smile.gif[/img] Oh well.

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