Ooch...that's gonna leave a mark

enigma · 02-13-2002, 10:24 PM

I don't suppose there's any way to stop Fikragg from letting loose one of those fire-bomb-things, is there? Three times I've gotten him to "near death" and than the little *insert favorite profane word here* somehow manages to scorch the arses off of my party. Poor little Aerie gets shredded to pieces every time....he always seems to go for her.....

I know there are other Fikragg posts out there, but I don't have the time to look at them right now. Any help would be appreciated, but (BTW) I'm not a big cheese fan. Thanks in advance!

Dundee Slaytern · 02-13-2002, 10:28 PM

Drinks Potions of Fire Resistance and/or Scrolls of Fire Protection and/or cast Fire Protection spells to boost your Fire Resistance to 100+%

The next time he fireballs you, you will not get hurt, and may even get healed if your Fire Resistance exceeds 100%

[ 02-13-2002: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

Darkrising · 02-13-2002, 10:37 PM

with Aerie I use the fire sheild(red) and the cleris spell protection from fire( i think thats the right one )and shes basically untouchable

PeeWee · 02-14-2002, 09:06 AM

I also agree to use more pro fire potions and maybe scrolls since I don't know what your party make-up is.

If you got fire protection spells, use em. I know one of your guys has to have around 90 in fire protection from the armor there.

In your case , since you bring em down to near death and seem to die from his breathe, I'd keep 2-3 fire potions on each person.

After pausing to watch his health and yours, hit the report to check on how your protections are holding up. Sometimes they seem to go away quite fast - sometimes. Dunno if those can get dispelled by something. I have seen dispelling graphics and seen the dispell text when I'm near the dragon. Dunno what that is.

Anyways, you just need the protections to gain you enough time to whack em dead if not already. I bought alot of potions from the lady in the southwestern corner of the bridge district.

G'luck.

Helspanth · 02-14-2002, 12:53 PM

You can also keep your characters back and laugh when he uses his breath weapon on wild dogs,ettercaps and such things.
Also the best way is not to let him do it.That means that you must kill him in less than a round...

Try a time stop for that.
Prepare a sequencer with 3 lower resistance
Fire the sequencer
Cast greater malison
Cast finger of death.

PoesRaven · 02-14-2002, 01:10 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Helspanth:
You can also keep your characters back and laugh when he uses his breath weapon on wild dogs,ettercaps and such things.
Also the best way is not to let him do it.That means that you must kill him in less than a round...
Try a time stop for that.
Prepare a sequencer with 3 lower resistance
Fire the sequencer
Cast greater malison
Cast finger of death.

Now thats cheese if ever i smelt it!!!!
[img]smile.gif[/img]
Cloudkill anyone [img]tongue.gif[/img]
-
-
-

Helspanth · 02-14-2002, 01:14 PM

@PoesRaven
What do you mean by "cheese"?
BTW i now the term.What do you find cheesy?
Also cloudkill tactics don't work with ToB installed

[ 02-14-2002: Message edited by: Helspanth ]

PoesRaven · 02-14-2002, 01:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Helspanth:
@PoesRaven
What do you mean by "cheese"?
BTW i now the term.What do you find cheesy?
Also cloudkill tactics don't work with ToB installed

[ 02-14-2002: Message edited by: Helspanth ]

-
Different peeps have diffo definitions of cheese (incl mould in edible form)
-
Cheese (IMO)= Ezy way to kill a beast that deserves a better fight/ avoiding a tough battle by using high level magic
-
Your way, Firkraag never even gets a hit in. How does that differ from the "Fake-Talk" or trap strategies which r classified as cheese?
-
You dont need time stop to kill Firkraag?
-
Asking that question is also cheesy [img]smile.gif[/img]
-
I didnt realise cloudkill was fixed by TOB, i never use it [img]tongue.gif[/img]
-
-
-

Helspanth · 02-14-2002, 01:30 PM

@PoesRaven
Cheese is taking advantage of a bad AI to make things easier.
For example cloudkill.In PnP there would be no way that a Dragon would sit motionless waiting to die from a cloudkill.
In my example you don't take advantage of an AI.
The same thing can happen in a PnP game.
About traps it isn't cheese to place them while out of the Dragons sight and then lure him there right?That's what traps are!

However placing traps round the beast while it sits around doing nothing is cheese because you take advantage of its bad AI.
So I ask again where do you see cheese.

[ 02-14-2002: Message edited by: Helspanth ]

PoesRaven · 02-14-2002, 01:32 PM

Pls see previous post.

Cheese can come in many different shapes and sizes [img]smile.gif[/img]

02-13-2002, 10:24 PM	#1
enigma The Magister Join Date: January 22, 2002 Location: Infinite Sea of Code Red, Canada every other weekend Posts: 119	I don't suppose there's any way to stop Fikragg from letting loose one of those fire-bomb-things, is there? Three times I've gotten him to "near death" and than the little insert favorite profane word here somehow manages to scorch the arses off of my party. Poor little Aerie gets shredded to pieces every time....he always seems to go for her..... I know there are other Fikragg posts out there, but I don't have the time to look at them right now. Any help would be appreciated, but (BTW) I'm not a big cheese fan. Thanks in advance! __________________ Exit lights....enter night....take my hand....off to never never land...

02-13-2002, 10:28 PM	#2
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Drinks Potions of Fire Resistance and/or Scrolls of Fire Protection and/or cast Fire Protection spells to boost your Fire Resistance to 100+% The next time he fireballs you, you will not get hurt, and may even get healed if your Fire Resistance exceeds 100% [ 02-13-2002: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ] __________________ Click On The Image For BG2 Information Land of the Psycho-moe

02-13-2002, 10:37 PM	#3
Darkrising Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: January 25, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 17	with Aerie I use the fire sheild(red) and the cleris spell protection from fire( i think thats the right one )and shes basically untouchable __________________ ...Quos Deus Vult Perdere Prius Dementat...

02-14-2002, 09:06 AM	#4
PeeWee Manshoon Join Date: January 25, 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 216	I also agree to use more pro fire potions and maybe scrolls since I don't know what your party make-up is. If you got fire protection spells, use em. I know one of your guys has to have around 90 in fire protection from the armor there. In your case , since you bring em down to near death and seem to die from his breathe, I'd keep 2-3 fire potions on each person. After pausing to watch his health and yours, hit the report to check on how your protections are holding up. Sometimes they seem to go away quite fast - sometimes. Dunno if those can get dispelled by something. I have seen dispelling graphics and seen the dispell text when I'm near the dragon. Dunno what that is. Anyways, you just need the protections to gain you enough time to whack em dead if not already. I bought alot of potions from the lady in the southwestern corner of the bridge district. G'luck. __________________ <i>just,</i><p><b>PeeWee</b><br />

02-14-2002, 12:53 PM	#5
Helspanth Quintesson Join Date: January 21, 2002 Location: Thessaloniki,Hellas Age: 43 Posts: 1,050	You can also keep your characters back and laugh when he uses his breath weapon on wild dogs,ettercaps and such things. Also the best way is not to let him do it.That means that you must kill him in less than a round... Try a time stop for that. Prepare a sequencer with 3 lower resistance Fire the sequencer Cast greater malison Cast finger of death. __________________ \"Sorrow is the future tense of love\"

02-14-2002, 01:10 PM	#6
PoesRaven Manshoon Join Date: September 6, 2001 Posts: 169	quote: Originally posted by Helspanth: You can also keep your characters back and laugh when he uses his breath weapon on wild dogs,ettercaps and such things. Also the best way is not to let him do it.That means that you must kill him in less than a round... Try a time stop for that. Prepare a sequencer with 3 lower resistance Fire the sequencer Cast greater malison Cast finger of death. Now thats cheese if ever i smelt it!!!! [img]smile.gif[/img] Cloudkill anyone [img]tongue.gif[/img] - - -

02-14-2002, 01:14 PM	#7
Helspanth Quintesson Join Date: January 21, 2002 Location: Thessaloniki,Hellas Age: 43 Posts: 1,050	@PoesRaven What do you mean by "cheese"? BTW i now the term.What do you find cheesy? Also cloudkill tactics don't work with ToB installed [ 02-14-2002: Message edited by: Helspanth ] __________________ \"Sorrow is the future tense of love\"

02-14-2002, 01:22 PM	#8
PoesRaven Manshoon Join Date: September 6, 2001 Posts: 169	quote: Originally posted by Helspanth: @PoesRaven What do you mean by "cheese"? BTW i now the term.What do you find cheesy? Also cloudkill tactics don't work with ToB installed [ 02-14-2002: Message edited by: Helspanth ] - Different peeps have diffo definitions of cheese (incl mould in edible form) - Cheese (IMO)= Ezy way to kill a beast that deserves a better fight/ avoiding a tough battle by using high level magic - Your way, Firkraag never even gets a hit in. How does that differ from the "Fake-Talk" or trap strategies which r classified as cheese? - You dont need time stop to kill Firkraag? - Asking that question is also cheesy [img]smile.gif[/img] - I didnt realise cloudkill was fixed by TOB, i never use it [img]tongue.gif[/img] - - -

02-14-2002, 01:30 PM	#9
Helspanth Quintesson Join Date: January 21, 2002 Location: Thessaloniki,Hellas Age: 43 Posts: 1,050	@PoesRaven Cheese is taking advantage of a bad AI to make things easier. For example cloudkill.In PnP there would be no way that a Dragon would sit motionless waiting to die from a cloudkill. In my example you don't take advantage of an AI. The same thing can happen in a PnP game. About traps it isn't cheese to place them while out of the Dragons sight and then lure him there right?That's what traps are! However placing traps round the beast while it sits around doing nothing is cheese because you take advantage of its bad AI. So I ask again where do you see cheese. [ 02-14-2002: Message edited by: Helspanth ] __________________ \"Sorrow is the future tense of love\"

02-14-2002, 01:32 PM	#10
PoesRaven Manshoon Join Date: September 6, 2001 Posts: 169	Pls see previous post. Cheese can come in many different shapes and sizes [img]smile.gif[/img]

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Mark Burnett -- Jump In	Bungleau	Entertainment (Movies, TV Shows and Books/Comics)	5	06-25-2008 08:48 AM
Mark of Zamithra	Marathon	Miscellaneous Games (RPG or not)	5	05-25-2004 10:43 PM
Black Mark X?	IAmThumper	Miscellaneous Games (RPG or not)	4	08-20-2003 03:42 PM
If you wanna Leave just leave	Rikard	General Conversation Archives (11/2000 - 01/2005)	89	05-02-2001 07:41 PM
The great 'we are gonna put 6 fighters against 6 magi and look who is gonna win' question	Rikard T'Aranaxz	Baldurs Gate II Archives	43	01-17-2001 07:43 PM