Soloing Bard

Vedran · 12-14-2002, 08:39 AM

Has anyone soloed this game with non-fighter character? Especially with bard? It is rather hard, and I am still in Cloakwood, at 7th level, near 8th. How could I beat tougher enemies? Any tactics?
What equipment for Bard do you use?

[ 12-14-2002, 05:44 PM: Message edited by: Vedran ]

Grungi · 12-16-2002, 05:14 AM

id love to see a solo bard beat aec'letec but i dont think its happening unless you drink so many potions you'd be in the toilet all day long afterwards [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Vedran · 12-16-2002, 07:33 AM

Well, I raised my exp. cap to 500 000 and I'll still hit it without killing the demon.
I am in the town itself, (10th level).
The worst thing aren't enemies (Wand of MS is a good wand), but traps. And inability to heal myself other than Bhaalspawn cure and lame potions.

I can't believe nobody have done that! Nonetheless, everybody boasts how good players they are.

Grungi · 12-16-2002, 07:59 AM

being good doesnt help you win the game if your playing with a char whose intrinsically weak on his own, at lvl 10 though the bard should have some pretty nice spells id have thought so have a good chance vs most enemies, but without removing the xp cap and with totsc i wouldnt have thought a bard could complete every quest going without one helluva lot of potion use and reloading.

I wish my name was Baggins · 12-16-2002, 09:21 AM

I have tried soloing with a non-fighter charachter, a cleric, but to be honest that it is still a new game and I am no where near as far as you so no help can be coming from me.

Vedran · 12-16-2002, 12:59 PM

It is not that bards are weak, it is the exp cap which is too low to allow non-fighter characters to raise their abilities (wizards & bards spells, thieves stealth and stab...) to high enough level. When I pass to BG2, it will be easier.
I hope I shall be able to transfer this char to BG2 with 500000xp

.

Grungi · 12-17-2002, 05:57 AM

u wont

it will cut you back to the tostc exp cap of 161,000

Lemmy · 12-17-2002, 11:33 AM

Vedran:
"It is not that bards are weak, it is the exp cap which is too low to allow non-fighter characters to raise their abilities (wizards & bards spells, thieves stealth and stab...) to high enough level."

High enough to effectively solo the game, you mean? Not true of Wizards! My Gnomish Illusionist ("Gnome Alone") soloed the game just fine, including TotSC areas, without external modifications or help from any NPC. If anything I found that soloing with a Fighter was *weaker*, but then I'm more Magely in my playstyle anyway. I mean, who wants to stand for dozens of rounds whiffing at enemies when you can cast Fire Ball (Later: Cloud Kill) and be done with it? [img]smile.gif[/img]

"The worst thing aren't enemies (Wand of MS is a good wand), but traps."

Mirror Imaging in dungeons is a very good habit for avoiding those nasty traps.

-Lem

Morgeruat · 12-17-2002, 12:21 PM

all tactics a bard acn use to teh utmost effectiveness, don't forget the virtues of minor globe of invulnerability when firing off fireballs/web/stinking cloud etc (you can invisibly drop you're best damage/AoE spells with no fear of harm to yourself)

Vedran · 12-17-2002, 01:11 PM

Thanks.
I always forget about Mirror Image. Curses! I guess that I'm not very magely in my playstyle

.
I've never thought about GoI as a shield of my own spells. Thanks for pointing it out.

12-14-2002, 08:39 AM	#1
Vedran Lord Soth Join Date: July 28, 2002 Location: Sisak, Croatia Age: 40 Posts: 1,930	Has anyone soloed this game with non-fighter character? Especially with bard? It is rather hard, and I am still in Cloakwood, at 7th level, near 8th. How could I beat tougher enemies? Any tactics? What equipment for Bard do you use? [ 12-14-2002, 05:44 PM: Message edited by: Vedran ] __________________ Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori, adhuc dulcius pro patria vivere. (It is sweet and glorius to die for one's homeland, even sweeter to live for it) Horatio

12-16-2002, 07:33 AM	#3
Vedran Lord Soth Join Date: July 28, 2002 Location: Sisak, Croatia Age: 40 Posts: 1,930	Well, I raised my exp. cap to 500 000 and I'll still hit it without killing the demon. I am in the town itself, (10th level). The worst thing aren't enemies (Wand of MS is a good wand), but traps. And inability to heal myself other than Bhaalspawn cure and lame potions. I can't believe nobody have done that! Nonetheless, everybody boasts how good players they are. __________________ Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori, adhuc dulcius pro patria vivere. (It is sweet and glorius to die for one's homeland, even sweeter to live for it) Horatio

12-16-2002, 09:21 AM	#5
I wish my name was Baggins Elminster Join Date: September 7, 2002 Location: Upstate, SC Age: 53 Posts: 463	I have tried soloing with a non-fighter charachter, a cleric, but to be honest that it is still a new game and I am no where near as far as you so no help can be coming from me. __________________ I went this way while he went that way, so I scream to my partner, \"WHERE\'D HE GO?\" only to have my partner answer, \"WHERE\'D WHO GO?\"

12-16-2002, 12:59 PM	#6
Vedran Lord Soth Join Date: July 28, 2002 Location: Sisak, Croatia Age: 40 Posts: 1,930	It is not that bards are weak, it is the exp cap which is too low to allow non-fighter characters to raise their abilities (wizards & bards spells, thieves stealth and stab...) to high enough level. When I pass to BG2, it will be easier. I hope I shall be able to transfer this char to BG2 with 500000xp . __________________ Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori, adhuc dulcius pro patria vivere. (It is sweet and glorius to die for one's homeland, even sweeter to live for it) Horatio

12-17-2002, 12:21 PM	#9
Morgeruat Jack Burton Join Date: October 16, 2001 Location: PA Age: 45 Posts: 5,421	all tactics a bard acn use to teh utmost effectiveness, don't forget the virtues of minor globe of invulnerability when firing off fireballs/web/stinking cloud etc (you can invisibly drop you're best damage/AoE spells with no fear of harm to yourself) __________________ "Any attempt to cheat, especially with my wife, who is a dirty, dirty, tramp, and I am just gonna snap." Knibb High Principal - Billy Madison

12-16-2002, 05:14 AM	#2
Grungi Banned User Join Date: September 4, 2002 Location: no Age: 47 Posts: 1,446	id love to see a solo bard beat aec'letec but i dont think its happening unless you drink so many potions you'd be in the toilet all day long afterwards [img]tongue.gif[/img]

12-16-2002, 07:59 AM	#4
Grungi Banned User Join Date: September 4, 2002 Location: no Age: 47 Posts: 1,446	being good doesnt help you win the game if your playing with a char whose intrinsically weak on his own, at lvl 10 though the bard should have some pretty nice spells id have thought so have a good chance vs most enemies, but without removing the xp cap and with totsc i wouldnt have thought a bard could complete every quest going without one helluva lot of potion use and reloading.

12-17-2002, 05:57 AM	#7
Grungi Banned User Join Date: September 4, 2002 Location: no Age: 47 Posts: 1,446	u wont it will cut you back to the tostc exp cap of 161,000

12-17-2002, 11:33 AM	#8
Lemmy Manshoon Join Date: October 20, 2002 Location: Montgomery, AL Age: 40 Posts: 157	Vedran: "It is not that bards are weak, it is the exp cap which is too low to allow non-fighter characters to raise their abilities (wizards & bards spells, thieves stealth and stab...) to high enough level." High enough to effectively solo the game, you mean? Not true of Wizards! My Gnomish Illusionist ("Gnome Alone") soloed the game just fine, including TotSC areas, without external modifications or help from any NPC. If anything I found that soloing with a Fighter was weaker, but then I'm more Magely in my playstyle anyway. I mean, who wants to stand for dozens of rounds whiffing at enemies when you can cast Fire Ball (Later: Cloud Kill) and be done with it? [img]smile.gif[/img] "The worst thing aren't enemies (Wand of MS is a good wand), but traps." Mirror Imaging in dungeons is a very good habit for avoiding those nasty traps. -Lem

12-17-2002, 01:11 PM	#10
Vedran Lord Soth Join Date: July 28, 2002 Location: Sisak, Croatia Age: 40 Posts: 1,930	Thanks. I always forget about Mirror Image. Curses! I guess that I'm not very magely in my playstyle . I've never thought about GoI as a shield of my own spells. Thanks for pointing it out. __________________ Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori, adhuc dulcius pro patria vivere. (It is sweet and glorius to die for one's homeland, even sweeter to live for it) Horatio

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