Can you think of cheese to melee parties (including 1 cleric 1 thief but no mage)?

el_kalkylus · 06-02-2005, 03:47 PM

Maybe I will play with one someday.

Cleric can use the sanctuary + blade barrier trick. That's about what I know. Making traps are not really cheating.

[ 06-02-2005, 03:52 PM: Message edited by: el_kalkylus ]

White Lancer · 06-02-2005, 04:17 PM

There's always the guard cheese...

el_kalkylus · 06-02-2005, 05:58 PM

Ok, what is the guard cheese?

White Lancer · 06-02-2005, 08:18 PM

Fighter classes have a guard button, i think its next to the talk button. Anyways, if you guard a summon, or another character, then send the summon/character through a door and close it, if anything attacks the guarded individual, the fighter will shoot through walls at the attacker. Im not sure if this is limited by range, but i know it works through walls.

Sir Goulum · 06-02-2005, 08:51 PM

Woah, never knew about that one. Baldurdash probably fixes it though, right?

el_kalkylus · 06-02-2005, 09:40 PM

Aha, nice. I won't be using that trick though.

I'll have to try the guard button a little more. Maybe I'll find it useful.

This is the advantage with melee parties I guess. Since there are so few cheese tactics for melee parties, it makes it harder to play with them. Right now, I'm playing in ToB, and I am actually pretty bored. I just have to cast a project image, and then the image totally owns with breath, timestop, abi dalzim, skeleton warriors and some minor spells.

I would like to try an archer party. Like 3 archers in a party, 1 warrior, 1 cleric, 1 thief. Weak defense, but powerful range.

Sir Goulum · 06-02-2005, 09:45 PM

I'd actually say it's harder with more mages/ranged people. Melee, you don't really have to think about strategy, placement of spells, what spells etc. you just go for it.

Assassin · 06-02-2005, 10:12 PM

Well, if you limit the number of rests that you take (say, in ToB, to one per bhaalspawn, no wishes and only a couple PI casts), then party play gets more interesting. Likewise, for me, limiting myself to not using IH is crucial for me not to get bored too quickly.

[ 06-02-2005, 10:13 PM: Message edited by: Assassin ]

White Lancer · 06-02-2005, 10:39 PM

I find IH to be boring in and of itself... especially when you have 4 melee characters. since it takes 4 rounds to cast IH on all of them, it gets tedious.

On the topic of the guard cheese, im not sure if baldurdash fixes it... it is a known bug, but whther it was fixed i dont know. Will check.

Sir Goulum · 06-02-2005, 10:44 PM

It's probably something obvious that I know, but what is IH?

06-02-2005, 03:47 PM	#1
el_kalkylus Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: March 3, 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden, Sweden Age: 45 Posts: 669	Maybe I will play with one someday. Cleric can use the sanctuary + blade barrier trick. That's about what I know. Making traps are not really cheating. [ 06-02-2005, 03:52 PM: Message edited by: el_kalkylus ] __________________ Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.

06-02-2005, 04:17 PM	#2
White Lancer Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: August 30, 2002 Location: Australia Age: 39 Posts: 628	There's always the guard cheese... __________________ It deons\'t mttaer waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, it olny mtaetrs taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be croecrt. The rset can be a tatol mses and you can sitll raed it. The huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

06-02-2005, 05:58 PM	#3
el_kalkylus Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: March 3, 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden, Sweden Age: 45 Posts: 669	Ok, what is the guard cheese? __________________ Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.

06-02-2005, 08:18 PM	#4
White Lancer Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: August 30, 2002 Location: Australia Age: 39 Posts: 628	Fighter classes have a guard button, i think its next to the talk button. Anyways, if you guard a summon, or another character, then send the summon/character through a door and close it, if anything attacks the guarded individual, the fighter will shoot through walls at the attacker. Im not sure if this is limited by range, but i know it works through walls. __________________ It deons\'t mttaer waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, it olny mtaetrs taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be croecrt. The rset can be a tatol mses and you can sitll raed it. The huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

06-02-2005, 09:40 PM	#6
el_kalkylus Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: March 3, 2001 Location: Stockholm, Sweden, Sweden Age: 45 Posts: 669	Aha, nice. I won't be using that trick though. I'll have to try the guard button a little more. Maybe I'll find it useful. This is the advantage with melee parties I guess. Since there are so few cheese tactics for melee parties, it makes it harder to play with them. Right now, I'm playing in ToB, and I am actually pretty bored. I just have to cast a project image, and then the image totally owns with breath, timestop, abi dalzim, skeleton warriors and some minor spells. I would like to try an archer party. Like 3 archers in a party, 1 warrior, 1 cleric, 1 thief. Weak defense, but powerful range. __________________ Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.

06-02-2005, 08:51 PM	#5
Sir Goulum John Locke Join Date: February 7, 2002 Location: Edmonton, Canada Age: 36 Posts: 8,985	Woah, never knew about that one. Baldurdash probably fixes it though, right?

06-02-2005, 09:45 PM	#7
Sir Goulum John Locke Join Date: February 7, 2002 Location: Edmonton, Canada Age: 36 Posts: 8,985	I'd actually say it's harder with more mages/ranged people. Melee, you don't really have to think about strategy, placement of spells, what spells etc. you just go for it.

06-02-2005, 10:12 PM	#8
Assassin Symbol of Cyric Join Date: March 23, 2003 Location: Canada Age: 37 Posts: 1,134	Well, if you limit the number of rests that you take (say, in ToB, to one per bhaalspawn, no wishes and only a couple PI casts), then party play gets more interesting. Likewise, for me, limiting myself to not using IH is crucial for me not to get bored too quickly. [ 06-02-2005, 10:13 PM: Message edited by: Assassin ] __________________ In The Terminator, Sarah Connor is told a speech by John Connor\'s father that John has given in the future. When John is born, Sarah tells John this speech, and John grows up to tell it in the future. So who wrote the speech?!

06-02-2005, 10:39 PM	#9
White Lancer Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: August 30, 2002 Location: Australia Age: 39 Posts: 628	I find IH to be boring in and of itself... especially when you have 4 melee characters. since it takes 4 rounds to cast IH on all of them, it gets tedious. On the topic of the guard cheese, im not sure if baldurdash fixes it... it is a known bug, but whther it was fixed i dont know. Will check. __________________ It deons\'t mttaer waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, it olny mtaetrs taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be croecrt. The rset can be a tatol mses and you can sitll raed it. The huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

06-02-2005, 10:44 PM	#10
Sir Goulum John Locke Join Date: February 7, 2002 Location: Edmonton, Canada Age: 36 Posts: 8,985	It's probably something obvious that I know, but what is IH?

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