What are the Terrasque and Living Wall?

Buster_Wiz · 08-01-2003, 12:30 AM

I keep hearing so much about these, but I honestly have no idea what their power level would be? If anyone has their stats or could link to somewhere that has their stats I would really appreciate it, I am always curious about the abilities of super powerful Monsters/creatures.

Seraph · 08-01-2003, 12:45 AM

Tarrasque:
http://home.onego.ru/~adnd/pages/mm/MM00281.htm

Living Wall:
http://home.onego.ru/~adnd/pages/mm/MM00186.htm

These and more are avaible at http://home.onego.ru/~adnd/pages/mm/mm00000.htm

Indemaijinj · 08-01-2003, 06:34 AM

The two hardest monsters of the Advanced Dungeons and Dragons 2nd edition Monstrous Manual.

The tarrasque has insanely high hit points. Insanely high regeneration rate. It can only be killed by chopping it into very small bits and uttering a Wish over them. This is harder than it sounds as the creature's insane regeneration never stops, no matter how obliterated the corpse gets. Top this off with the most insane ThAC0 and AC you can imagine.

The undead living wall is as strong as the sum of the people it has absorbed. All these would add their attacks, both normal and spell(like), as well as their hit points to the wall's capabilities. Theoretically there is no limit on how strong a living wall can get.

[ 08-01-2003, 06:35 AM: Message edited by: Indemaijinj ]

Xen · 08-01-2003, 06:37 AM

Wow! This is scary. It`s good that BioWare didn`t put this into game.
And i though that those pesky Greater Werevolves have insane regeneration..

Gangrell · 08-01-2003, 07:10 AM

That is nothing (seriously, it isn't), you should see the Tarrasque for 3rd Edition D&D, not to mention the fun Epic Level Monsters they have.

Pyrenk · 08-01-2003, 07:37 AM

You could've just asked me in the topic that I mentioned them in, you know.

605 · 08-01-2003, 04:56 PM

First off, I'm familiar with both of these from D&D, but this last line in the Tarrasque description sounds a little... off.

Note: Creatures with a minus THAC0 can only be hit on a 1.

I think they're refering to HIS THACO being so low, and I think they mean "Can only MISS on a roll of 1." Otherwise, that doesn't make sense at all... cause his THACO wouldn't affect his own ability to be hit, that's what his AC is for. I don't think that line of text appears in the monster manual at all.

andrewas · 08-01-2003, 05:17 PM

That line has always confused me as well, but it is there in all descriptions of the tarrasque I've seen.

It dosent make sense even if you replace it with "can only miss on a 1" since theres nothing special about a negative THACO that cant be accounted for by the normal method of rolling attacks. A bit of a puzzle.

Does anyone have an actual 2E rulebook/monster manual?

Gangrell · 08-01-2003, 05:27 PM

That is from the 2nd Edition monster manual andrewas, all the monsters on the webpage are.

08-01-2003, 06:34 AM	#3
Indemaijinj Symbol of Cyric Join Date: June 15, 2002 Location: Denmark Age: 44 Posts: 1,163	The two hardest monsters of the Advanced Dungeons and Dragons 2nd edition Monstrous Manual. The tarrasque has insanely high hit points. Insanely high regeneration rate. It can only be killed by chopping it into very small bits and uttering a Wish over them. This is harder than it sounds as the creature's insane regeneration never stops, no matter how obliterated the corpse gets. Top this off with the most insane ThAC0 and AC you can imagine. The undead living wall is as strong as the sum of the people it has absorbed. All these would add their attacks, both normal and spell(like), as well as their hit points to the wall's capabilities. Theoretically there is no limit on how strong a living wall can get. [ 08-01-2003, 06:35 AM: Message edited by: Indemaijinj ] __________________ The Bleak Caballero<br /><br />Proud and original member (and secret admirer) of the Pro-Mazzy movement.

08-01-2003, 07:37 AM	#6
Pyrenk Symbol of Cyric Join Date: January 2, 2003 Location: Old Bethpage, Long Island Age: 37 Posts: 1,156	You could've just asked me in the topic that I mentioned them in, you know. __________________

08-01-2003, 04:56 PM	#7
605 Manshoon Join Date: December 22, 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Age: 48 Posts: 215	First off, I'm familiar with both of these from D&D, but this last line in the Tarrasque description sounds a little... off. Note: Creatures with a minus THAC0 can only be hit on a 1. I think they're refering to HIS THACO being so low, and I think they mean "Can only MISS on a roll of 1." Otherwise, that doesn't make sense at all... cause his THACO wouldn't affect his own ability to be hit, that's what his AC is for. I don't think that line of text appears in the monster manual at all. __________________ This is my \"I don\'t have a creative signature,\" signature.

08-01-2003, 05:17 PM	#8
andrewas Harper Join Date: October 2, 2001 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Age: 43 Posts: 4,774	That line has always confused me as well, but it is there in all descriptions of the tarrasque I've seen. It dosent make sense even if you replace it with "can only miss on a 1" since theres nothing special about a negative THACO that cant be accounted for by the normal method of rolling attacks. A bit of a puzzle. Does anyone have an actual 2E rulebook/monster manual? __________________ [img]\"http://www.sighost.us/members/Zvijer/andrewas.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

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08-01-2003, 12:30 AM	#1
Buster_Wiz Dungeon Master Join Date: March 16, 2002 Location: TN Age: 43 Posts: 89	I keep hearing so much about these, but I honestly have no idea what their power level would be? If anyone has their stats or could link to somewhere that has their stats I would really appreciate it, I am always curious about the abilities of super powerful Monsters/creatures.

08-01-2003, 12:45 AM	#2
Seraph Quintesson Join Date: September 12, 2001 Location: Ewing, NJ Age: 43 Posts: 1,079	Tarrasque: http://home.onego.ru/~adnd/pages/mm/MM00281.htm Living Wall: http://home.onego.ru/~adnd/pages/mm/MM00186.htm These and more are avaible at http://home.onego.ru/~adnd/pages/mm/mm00000.htm

08-01-2003, 06:37 AM	#4
Xen Symbol of Moradin Join Date: June 5, 2002 Location: Slovenia,Ljubljana Age: 37 Posts: 8,554	Wow! This is scary. It`s good that BioWare didn`t put this into game. And i though that those pesky Greater Werevolves have insane regeneration..

08-01-2003, 07:10 AM	#5
Gangrell Iron Throne Cult Join Date: January 2, 2003 Location: Big Castle in the Sky Age: 38 Posts: 4,835	That is nothing (seriously, it isn't), you should see the Tarrasque for 3rd Edition D&D, not to mention the fun Epic Level Monsters they have.

08-01-2003, 05:27 PM	#9
Gangrell Iron Throne Cult Join Date: January 2, 2003 Location: Big Castle in the Sky Age: 38 Posts: 4,835	That is from the 2nd Edition monster manual andrewas, all the monsters on the webpage are.

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