How To killem all

mad cow · 06-10-2002, 07:13 PM

When you fight a blue monster have your mage go to talk to it then pause and have your mage do some thing else and you have got
2-5minutes to kill it before it starts to fight back good for Dragons

now for liches you have to pause very fast good hunting

Sir Goulum · 06-10-2002, 07:16 PM

What, might I ask, is a blue monster????

Sazerac · 06-10-2002, 07:36 PM

I take it, he means, an opponent that has a blue circle at their base (neutral) rather than a red one (hostile).

-Sazerac

P.S. That's the "velveeta" school of fighting monsters, BTW!

P.P.S. Welcome to IW, Mad Cow! [img]smile.gif[/img]

"S"

Xero279 · 06-10-2002, 07:49 PM

that tactic is major cheese! it doesnt work on everything though. what you do is pause the game when u see it then click your going to talk to it, then use the force attack button and it will stay neutral while u kill it.

SixOfSpades · 06-10-2002, 11:16 PM

The only thing I use this for is the Drunken Sailors in Brynnlaw: Talk to them enough times and they'll fall flat on their face. Talk to them again, but instead quickly run around them in a circle. Their sprite-set will turn to follow you, allowing you to spin them in a circle face-down in the sand. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Radek · 06-11-2002, 03:38 AM

This unsatisfactory method of winning combats is called "fake talk" method. The method is based on the fact that combats in BG run in turns. Each turn is 6 second long. If you pretend that you are about to talk and if you attack instead, the victim of the fake talk will wait for your conversation and overlook the attack during the current turn. It would detect the attack next turn - if you allowed it. You can prevent the detection by means of pausing before the turn ends and pretending the talk again.
We can see why this "method" is stinking: we are taking advantage from a misunderstanding in the game. The scripts of the monsters aren't prepared for your "sudden change of decision". This could be fixed by introducing an I_have_been_attacked flag in the scripts. When the flag is set then no more talks. Prepare to die.

Calaethis Dragonsbane · 06-11-2002, 05:03 AM

Thats odd, I could have SWORN i answered this. did someone delete my last post?,. anyway WHAT I intending to say was you unhonourable bast*rd. this is a cheap tactic, YOU ARE NOT WORTHY OF HAVING THE BLOOD OF A DEITY IN YOU! er yes, sorry but I am outraged at this cheap tactic. It is pethetic, FACE THEM IN SINGLE COMBAT! listen to the LILACOR! KILL THEM! er yes, sorry.

But serioulsy, if you use this tactic, it justs proves that you really are a loser. maybe I'm being a bit harse, But I dont care. and this isnt flmin btw, just my opoinion. btw, WHAT allignment did you play as? CH, that is "cower and hide". BAH!

Calaethis Dragonsbane · 06-11-2002, 05:16 AM

no I'm not going crazy; this post is ALSO in TOB... a question, WHY?!

Zuvio · 06-12-2002, 04:06 AM

This guy is quite the paranoid one, he continues on his quest through fearun killing al the blueis cuz there potetntial baddies. That NO way to live!@

mad cow · 06-12-2002, 06:00 PM

i do not use it(did 1 time) just good if you cant kill it so plz lay of

06-10-2002, 07:36 PM	#3
Sazerac Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Monroe, LA Age: 61 Posts: 7,387	I take it, he means, an opponent that has a blue circle at their base (neutral) rather than a red one (hostile). -Sazerac P.S. That's the "velveeta" school of fighting monsters, BTW! P.P.S. Welcome to IW, Mad Cow! [img]smile.gif[/img] "S" __________________ "And all my days are trances, and all my nightly dreams, Are where thy grey eye glances, and where thy footstep gleams, In what ethereal dances, by what eternal streams..."

06-10-2002, 07:49 PM	#4
Xero279 Symbol of Cyric Join Date: May 12, 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 38 Posts: 1,360	that tactic is major cheese! it doesnt work on everything though. what you do is pause the game when u see it then click your going to talk to it, then use the force attack button and it will stay neutral while u kill it. __________________ <br /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[music04]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/music04.gif\" /> Live to Rock, Rock to Live <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[rocking2]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/rocking2.gif\" /> <br />[url]\"http://www.livejournal.com/users/Xero279\" target=\"_blank\">...From The Mind of Xero</a>

06-10-2002, 11:16 PM	#5
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 48 Posts: 6,901	The only thing I use this for is the Drunken Sailors in Brynnlaw: Talk to them enough times and they'll fall flat on their face. Talk to them again, but instead quickly run around them in a circle. Their sprite-set will turn to follow you, allowing you to spin them in a circle face-down in the sand. [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

06-11-2002, 03:38 AM	#6
Radek Red Dragon Join Date: April 3, 2001 Location: Prague, Czech Republic Posts: 1,586	This unsatisfactory method of winning combats is called "fake talk" method. The method is based on the fact that combats in BG run in turns. Each turn is 6 second long. If you pretend that you are about to talk and if you attack instead, the victim of the fake talk will wait for your conversation and overlook the attack during the current turn. It would detect the attack next turn - if you allowed it. You can prevent the detection by means of pausing before the turn ends and pretending the talk again. We can see why this "method" is stinking: we are taking advantage from a misunderstanding in the game. The scripts of the monsters aren't prepared for your "sudden change of decision". This could be fixed by introducing an I_have_been_attacked flag in the scripts. When the flag is set then no more talks. Prepare to die. __________________ My name is Demon\'s Last Day. Yes, the last one.

06-11-2002, 05:03 AM	#7
Calaethis Dragonsbane Legion Symbol Join Date: May 29, 2002 Location: Somewhere in between Age: 40 Posts: 7,029	Thats odd, I could have SWORN i answered this. did someone delete my last post?,. anyway WHAT I intending to say was you unhonourable bastrd. this is a cheap tactic, YOU ARE NOT WORTHY OF HAVING THE BLOOD OF A DEITY IN YOU! er yes, sorry but I am outraged at this cheap tactic. It is pethetic, FACE THEM IN SINGLE COMBAT! listen to the LILACOR! KILL THEM! er yes, sorry. But serioulsy, if you use this tactic, it justs proves that you really are a loser. maybe I'm being a bit harse, But I dont care. and this isnt flmin btw, just my opoinion. btw, WHAT allignment did you play as? CH, that is "cower and hide". BAH! __________________ Skydracgrrl: Cruelty, thy name is Cal! --- There are none so blind as those who refuse to see, none so deaf as those who refuse to hear, and none so smelly as those who refuse to bathe.*

06-10-2002, 07:13 PM	#1
mad cow Welcomed New User Join Date: June 10, 2002 Location: Alaska Age: 38 Posts: 3	When you fight a blue monster have your mage go to talk to it then pause and have your mage do some thing else and you have got 2-5minutes to kill it before it starts to fight back good for Dragons now for liches you have to pause very fast good hunting

06-10-2002, 07:16 PM	#2
Sir Goulum John Locke Join Date: February 7, 2002 Location: Edmonton, Canada Age: 36 Posts: 8,985	What, might I ask, is a blue monster????

06-11-2002, 05:16 AM	#8
Calaethis Dragonsbane Legion Symbol Join Date: May 29, 2002 Location: Somewhere in between Age: 40 Posts: 7,029	no I'm not going crazy; this post is ALSO in TOB... a question, WHY?! __________________ Skydracgrrl: Cruelty, thy name is Cal! --- There are none so blind as those who refuse to see, none so deaf as those who refuse to hear, and none so smelly as those who refuse to bathe.

06-12-2002, 04:06 AM	#9
Zuvio Gold Dragon Join Date: May 19, 2002 Location: Blessed are those who are not.... Age: 44 Posts: 2,556	This guy is quite the paranoid one, he continues on his quest through fearun killing al the blueis cuz there potetntial baddies. That NO way to live!@ __________________ [img]\"http://img121.exs.cx/img121/4236/zuviodemonnoname2hf.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

06-12-2002, 06:00 PM	#10
mad cow Welcomed New User Join Date: June 10, 2002 Location: Alaska Age: 38 Posts: 3	i do not use it(did 1 time) just good if you cant kill it so plz lay of

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