A few short questions

[Melusine]

I've got roughly 20 pages of journal now, and I'm starting to find it harder to get a good overview of what quests I still need to do and so on. Is it true that when you install the expansion (Tribunal?) you can sort your quests somehow? Because someone got the expansion for me and I'm not sure whether to install it already. Pros and cons?

Also, about stealing [img]graemlins/blush.gif[/img] When you get away with stealing unnoticed (i.e. no one going "thief!!" etc) does this mean you will never get caught for the crime? Because I stole some stuff in a temple unseen, but later they did attack me. I had just sold some stuff to one of the priests however - possibly they were things I'd stolen?
And related to this - I was talking to a commoner in Ald Ruhn when a cliffracer attacked me. I killed it, but then noticed the commoner was attacking me so I had to kill him. No one saw us and I didn't hear anything about it. I was too lazy to reload too. [img]tongue.gif[/img] Any repercussions I should expect there?

Thanks in advance for any help [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 05-06-2004, 05:02 PM: Message edited by: Melusine ]

[steveum]

Well your jounal gets huge dont worry you can sort them but i saw alphabeticly only.

And when stealing like most ppl do in the game you have to be carfeul of the NPC's you steal from if you can barter with them you cant sell them anything you ever stole from them also everything you have ever stolen gets taken from you when you talk to a gaurd (pay/or serve time after commiting a crime you get seen doing)Dont worry you can get it back from chests marked "Evedence" in certain Law strongholds.

[johnny]

You can steal all you want from anyone you like, as long as you don't try to sell it in the same place. I once made the very big mistake of stealing the soulgem on the desk in the mages guild in Balmora, the one that's worth 20.000 Septims. I went to the woman who usually stands around there, and tried to buy an enchantment from her with that gem, which of course was originally hers. In no time i had the entire mages guild populace attacking me. She knew it was her gem.

And about that Cliffracer incident.... in all the commotion you must have accidentally hit the other person. If that happens they turn against you. That's why i don't like those assignments where you have to escort someone from A to B, because when something happens, they happily storm into battle and block your way to deliver a good blow.

Shit happens. [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

[ 05-06-2004, 05:29 PM: Message edited by: johnny ]

[Jelly Sculptress]

it's true that when you install tribunal it will allow you to look at your quests in a list and you have the option to highlight current (i.e. unfinished)quests. The first time you load a game after you load tribunal it takes ages to do because it is sorting them all out, so you should save again straight away. As for whether there are any cons to doing this before you finish Morrowind I don't know as I waited till the end - but I'm sure someone else will tell you!

[Kakero]

You can install tribunal but doing the tribunal quest might kill off the game fun ( some of the tribunal items is too powerful for new characters ). so just install it and then go to your datafiles and unchecked Tribunal.esm.

check it again when you feel like you are ready doing tribunal quests.

[Oruboris]

NOW WAIT, this is important:

If you steal an iron dagger, say, from a certain merchant, sell it elsewhere, then come back many many months later with a DIFFERENT iron dagger for sale, YOU'LL GET BUSTED.

In fact, if you steal it from a box under the stairs at the fort [for instance], all items of that type will always be considered stolen by the merchants of that fort!

Easiest way around this is to only steal out of crates outdoors [they don't count], or bad guys in the caves/dungeons/etc.

Oru

[theGrimm]

Another way to get past this is to designate a "no-steal" area.

i.e. if you never steal anything from the Balmora mages guild, you can be sure you will always be able to sell anything there.

Careful if you play with Tribunal activated...there are some events that will lead to your demise if you are not high enough level (5+, 10+ to be safe). But it will sort your journal nicely.

As for repurcussion after attacking someone...

Check in your char stats under "bounty"...if it's zero, you got away unseen. Otherwise, you can pay off the bounty:
-if you pay it off at a guard, they will also confiscate all your stolen possesions.
-if you pay it off at the thieves guild, it costs less and they don't take your stolen goods.

You won't always be chased when you have a bounty on you, but if it gets high enough, all guards will chase you on sight, and if it gets toooo high, they'll try and kill you.

P.S. Whats a friendly healer doing stealing, anyway?

[johnny]

To prevent all these unnecessary annoyances, sell your stolen goodies to one and the same person. You might have to travel there from time to time, when your inventory is starting to get full, but it sure beats getting arrested over silly situations like mentioned above.

That merchant in question would be the Creeper in Caldera, he buys ANYTHING, and doesn't ask questions.

[Aelia Jusa]

Tribunal does fix your journal in a big way - I didn't find it a huge problem though when I had a lot of quests - I just wrote down on a piece of paper where I had quests to go and who I needed to see there and avoided having to check my journal too often. However, on the side of installing Tribunal early, as Jelly Sculptress says it takes a LONG time to load after you've installed if you're a long way through - I did it after I'd done the main quest (did you know you can play on after that - quite a cool feature! No leaving the bad guys to stew while you go get more treasure like most games which I always found fairly unsatisfying role-playing-wise ). It seriously took 40 minutes. Better to do it now, and as Kakero said, disable the Tribunal components so you don't get sucked into the Tribunal quest (it's hard not to otherwise).

LOL I agree with the Grimm! Bad Mel for stealing [img]tongue.gif[/img] . I always had a no tomb-raiding rule for my character, and otherwise I didn't really have any choice because I was so crap at sneak I couldn't steal