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Sir Ryan Trawl · 11-17-2002, 10:39 PM

Do you think a 1st/2nd level character is powerful enough to take on a Vampire rogue? My plot doesn't work if that isn't posible. Also, what level do you suggest before battling liches?

Heartless Butterscotch · 11-18-2002, 12:15 AM

I'm guessing that it's conceivalble for a fighter class character with enough healing potions to kill a vampire rogue. However, I doubt all classes will have success at that level. Also, aren't those suckers immune to normal weapons? Beginning characters with normal equipment might have a problem there...

Not sure about liches. You might try throwing together a quick module with any monsters you're interested in and try defeating them.

Shadowheart · 11-19-2002, 02:25 PM

Damage reduction 20/+1

Chewbacca · 11-19-2002, 02:32 PM

I edited some of the curst creatures, scaling them down for a 3-4 lvl character to handle. They used to regenerate, have damage reduction, and loads other special abilities, not anymore. If the creature fits the story, you can tweak it's stats for balance.

[ 11-19-2002, 02:46 PM: Message edited by: Chewbacca ]

SirTristram · 11-19-2002, 11:27 PM

Ryan, that'd be a damned hard fight... u could even it if you DMed or scripted some 'random' event to help out the PCs?

Sir Ryan Trawl · 11-23-2002, 12:33 AM

What if I have the vampire be fighting a powerful spider, and have it be poisoned? of course, then I'd have to deal with the spider.

Heartless Butterscotch · 11-23-2002, 04:39 AM

If it's possible to edit the vampire's stats like Chewy mentioned then I'd just lower the sucker's health and then maybe explain his condition in a dialogue prior to battle. For instance, maybe the vampire hasn't dined in a really long time and he's lured the party into his lair for dinner.

[ 11-23-2002, 04:42 AM: Message edited by: Heartless Butterscotch ]

Obsidian the Black · 11-23-2002, 01:34 PM

Just check what the vamps Cr (challenge rating) is. If it is below 3, then you might be ok.

Draten-Master of Fire and Ice · 12-22-2002, 12:41 AM

How about putting in a more powerful NPC character (an insane vampire hunter for expample) to aid the PC in this battle?

ecarletti · 12-27-2002, 09:26 AM

I don't know how vampire are implemented in
Neverwinter but with D&D 3rd Ed. Vampire is
a template you give to a creature. This
template boost the CR by +2. This template
give some powers to the base creature, like
damage resist 20/+1.
Il you make a 1rst level wizard a vampire, he
will be only CR 3 and it could be slain by
a 3rd level character (having a magical weapon
might be very, very handdy). The computer AI
isn't very smart and has somme difficulty using
the cool features of vampirism (like gazeous
form too retreat, ...).

11-17-2002, 10:39 PM	#1
Sir Ryan Trawl Dungeon Master Join Date: October 13, 2002 Location: High Hall of the Radiant Heart, Athkatla Age: 36 Posts: 65	Do you think a 1st/2nd level character is powerful enough to take on a Vampire rogue? My plot doesn't work if that isn't posible. Also, what level do you suggest before battling liches? __________________ <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[repuke]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/repuke.gif\" /> <br />\"TORM TAKE YOU!!\"

11-19-2002, 02:32 PM	#4
Chewbacca Zartan Join Date: July 18, 2001 Location: America, On The Beautiful Earth Age: 51 Posts: 5,373	I edited some of the curst creatures, scaling them down for a 3-4 lvl character to handle. They used to regenerate, have damage reduction, and loads other special abilities, not anymore. If the creature fits the story, you can tweak it's stats for balance. [ 11-19-2002, 02:46 PM: Message edited by: Chewbacca ] __________________ Support Local Music and Record Stores! Got Liberty?

11-19-2002, 11:27 PM	#5
SirTristram Manshoon Join Date: November 2, 2002 Location: Calgary, Alberta Age: 38 Posts: 155	Ryan, that'd be a damned hard fight... u could even it if you DMed or scripted some 'random' event to help out the PCs? __________________

11-23-2002, 12:33 AM	#6
Sir Ryan Trawl Dungeon Master Join Date: October 13, 2002 Location: High Hall of the Radiant Heart, Athkatla Age: 36 Posts: 65	What if I have the vampire be fighting a powerful spider, and have it be poisoned? of course, then I'd have to deal with the spider. __________________ <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[repuke]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/repuke.gif\" /> <br />\"TORM TAKE YOU!!\"

11-23-2002, 01:34 PM	#8
Obsidian the Black Elminster Join Date: May 8, 2002 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 470	Just check what the vamps Cr (challenge rating) is. If it is below 3, then you might be ok. __________________ Caelic's Wowwiki information page

11-18-2002, 12:15 AM	#2
Heartless Butterscotch The Magister Join Date: November 5, 2002 Location: Marysville, WA Age: 48 Posts: 104	I'm guessing that it's conceivalble for a fighter class character with enough healing potions to kill a vampire rogue. However, I doubt all classes will have success at that level. Also, aren't those suckers immune to normal weapons? Beginning characters with normal equipment might have a problem there... Not sure about liches. You might try throwing together a quick module with any monsters you're interested in and try defeating them.

11-19-2002, 02:25 PM	#3
Shadowheart Dungeon Master Join Date: November 9, 2002 Location: A path of frozen tears Age: 38 Posts: 75	Damage reduction 20/+1

11-23-2002, 04:39 AM	#7
Heartless Butterscotch The Magister Join Date: November 5, 2002 Location: Marysville, WA Age: 48 Posts: 104	If it's possible to edit the vampire's stats like Chewy mentioned then I'd just lower the sucker's health and then maybe explain his condition in a dialogue prior to battle. For instance, maybe the vampire hasn't dined in a really long time and he's lured the party into his lair for dinner. [ 11-23-2002, 04:42 AM: Message edited by: Heartless Butterscotch ]

12-22-2002, 12:41 AM	#9
Draten-Master of Fire and Ice Dungeon Master Join Date: December 5, 2002 Location: Deep within the Spikey Forest. Age: 51 Posts: 99	How about putting in a more powerful NPC character (an insane vampire hunter for expample) to aid the PC in this battle? __________________ Going out your front door is dangerous buisiness...you never know where you might be swept off to. --Bilbo Baggins

12-27-2002, 09:26 AM	#10
ecarletti Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: March 14, 2001 Location: Paris, FRANCE Posts: 46	I don't know how vampire are implemented in Neverwinter but with D&D 3rd Ed. Vampire is a template you give to a creature. This template boost the CR by +2. This template give some powers to the base creature, like damage resist 20/+1. Il you make a 1rst level wizard a vampire, he will be only CR 3 and it could be slain by a 3rd level character (having a magical weapon might be very, very handdy). The computer AI isn't very smart and has somme difficulty using the cool features of vampirism (like gazeous form too retreat, ...).

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