Edwin and other red wizards ... spoiler?

[SnarktheStrange]

I ran into a coven of red wizards in the north. After a little chat, they attacked my good party. Would this play out differently if I had an evil party with Edwin along?

[Ulgoth's Beard Trimmer]

Yup, they don't attack you, because of the fact that Edwin is of their kind.

Regards
UBT

[Grungi]

but as they have some good items its worth killing them anyway (from what i remember the head mage has some worthwhile stuff and you find them in the spider place in the north east i think)

[InsaneBane]

Hi

I got Edwin in my party and I want to kill those red wizards.

I had tried 2 things, and none of them worked satisfactory:

1) Having Edwin in my party: After the dialog with one of the red wizards (he just said something like: Hi Eddie have a nice day), the red wizard just wandered away, not to be seen again. Should I make a quick atack on the non-hostile NPC right after the dialog or ???

2) I tried to remove Edwin from the party before the encounter with the red wizards, but anywhere I tried to remove Edwin, he just wandered off the screen not to be seen again. Is there a special place where I can find Edwin again? I have a Good/Neutral party with a rep. of 20 (Edwin does not like his companions, but stays).

Insane

[Grungi]

like any char leave em at an inn though possibly some you cant get back, but i think edwin you can, anyhows yeah attack him before he speaks, hes evil so shouldnt hurt your rep at all, hes about 1200 exp i think so worth it, but they cast some nasty spells, advantage with edwin is you can position a man behind each one of the wizards before you start fighting [img]smile.gif[/img] so getting a backstab with thief, spell with mage etc before they know what hit em [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Morgeruat]

drop your reputation, if you drop an evil character (or even a neutral) with an "extreme" reputation (19-20, or 4 or lower for neutrals or good) they will leave for good. I would drop your rep by a few points anyway as Edwin will leave you before long if you've got a 20 rep, that or find a new mage.

[InsaneBane]

Ok - Thanks

What is the easiest (and most controlable) way to make your reputation drop a few points?

Can you make your rep. drop without doing pure evil things (like killing a commoner in a city or killing a guard etc.)?

Insane

[SnarktheStrange]

For dropping your reputation, see table 9b, page 85 of the manual. Getting caught stealing should do it. But I'm not sure how long you are plagued by flaming fools.

[ 12-17-2002, 04:13 AM: Message edited by: SnarktheStrange ]

[Grungi]

you get done once when caught but if your rep is low enough then you start getting plagued at rep 5 i think theres a 5 percent chance but each point down and odds go up till at 0 rep your just getting buttmolested by flaming fist every map you go on, i did it once just to see, its one way to get exp fast but you get no respite [img]tongue.gif[/img] still on the plus side you can hack everyone up with no fear of retribution, cos they are already in front of you [img]smile.gif[/img]