Help needed on dualling

Sparhawk · 02-09-2002, 10:01 PM

Well...I´m making a party from scratch bottom So I thought that making four fighters with the right kind of prof. choices would be a good idea...I even went as far to distributing their abbilities in the right places...So i.e. the fighter who is to become a mage does in fact have 18 in inteligence!
NOW THE PROBLEM IS AS FOLLOWS:
I don´t get a chance to dual any of the four fighters and I can´t figure out what is wrong...do they need to reach a certain lvl. before I can dual or something like that!
I just triede dualling them as soon as I was in the first few seconds of the game...still in Irenicus dungeon AND yes I know that this should belong in the SoA forum but I need these people for a ToB game in multiland with some friends

PeeWee · 02-09-2002, 10:31 PM

Dual classing comes to humans only AFTER they reach second level.

ONE thing to note, you get proficiencies right off from using the warrior model. This is good but you get even MORE proficiency points for rangers. They too have racial enemies which makes them formidable comrades.

The warrior classes : fighters, rangers, and paladins get 1-10 hitpoints per level for the frist 9 levels.

So the warrior classes could get as much as 10 hitpoints per level. This goes til lvl 9. At lvl 9, any of the mentioned classes above can be at 90 hitpoints. You ALSO get bonuses from high constitution.

Humans have a max constitution of 18 which adds +4 hitpoints to what they get per level.

I would get a warrior to at least lvl 9 to get maximum usage out of this table, then dual him to another class. This gives the most hp but you can dual anytime after level 2.

I believe barbarians have a hitpoint table with a range of 1-12 instead of 1-10 for the first 9 lvls.

The human race is the only race which can dual class....while others can multi-class ONLY if their stats meet the requirements for both.

If you wanted to multi-class an elven fighter to mage, he would need to have the proper mimimal stats for both fighter and mage. If he doesn't, then you wouldn't even see the multi-class selection box highlighted.

And just because humans can dual class doesn't mean you can have a paladin dualing to a mage. There are restrictions.

So hope that clears up some of the confusion.

Sparhawk · 02-09-2002, 10:40 PM

Thanx...but I´m still in dire straits regarding this problem.
My four fighters all have the stats needed for the dualling but the dualbox isn´t highlighted and since U start at lvl. 7 in SoA I should be able to dual right away unless of course U mean that it is at 9th lvl I can dual the characters

Sparhawk · 02-09-2002, 10:49 PM

take for example my fighter Artemis Darkshade:
Elf
str: 17
Dex: 19
Con: 15
Int: 17
Wis: 16
Cha: 18
He is of neutral Good alignement and has high mastery in scimitars and a couple of points in dualwielding...Yet I cannot dual him, I´ve tried boosting his exp. by usin cheats but it doesn´t work...that is he DOES get exp. and lvls up but the dualbox is still not highlighted

PeeWee · 02-09-2002, 11:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Sparhawk:
take for example my fighter Artemis Darkshade:
Elf
str: 17
Dex: 19
Con: 15
Int: 17
Wis: 16
Cha: 18
He is of neutral Good alignement and has high mastery in scimitars and a couple of points in dualwielding...Yet I cannot dual him, I´ve tried boosting his exp. by usin cheats but it doesn´t work...that is he DOES get exp. and lvls up but the dualbox is still not highlighted

H'es an elf. Elves can't dual. They can multi-class. I think for that however you would need to have done it at the character selection. ELVES ARE NOT HUMANS. Multi-class is different from dual classing. YOu do have to pick this at character selection.

Just an oversight but seems to be a big one.

Sparhawk · 02-09-2002, 11:32 PM

Doh!!!
Thanx Peewee...I didn´t really use the head on that one, wich by some curious accident seems to be rather profound for this night

Thanx again...gotta go make some changes

PeeWee · 02-09-2002, 11:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Sparhawk:
Doh!!!
Thanx Peewee...I didn´t really use the head on that one, wich by some curious accident seems to be rather profound for this night
Thanx again...gotta go make some changes

No problem at all. Apeears to be ya getting ready for some great times playing the multiplayer bit. I've been wanting to try it but have like no direction on where to look besides gamespy(from what I hear of cheaters, I'm not even gonna try). Don't have ppl who are into rpgs - mostly counterstrike junkies.

Plus I'm clueless on working with LAN's or modems to modems...
Have fun with your friends.

Sparhawk · 02-10-2002, 11:54 AM

Actually we´re putting up a 100MB hub and just playing among ourselves none of us´d like to get smashed by some totally puffed up character in gamespy...Even though they´d have a hard time against my basic lvl 31 party
Sorcerer
Mage
Paladin
Bountyhunter
Archer
Priest of Thalos

02-09-2002, 10:01 PM	#1
Sparhawk Quintesson Join Date: June 2, 2001 Location: In the oldest monarchy - Denmark Age: 47 Posts: 1,071	Well...I´m making a party from scratch bottom So I thought that making four fighters with the right kind of prof. choices would be a good idea...I even went as far to distributing their abbilities in the right places...So i.e. the fighter who is to become a mage does in fact have 18 in inteligence! NOW THE PROBLEM IS AS FOLLOWS: I don´t get a chance to dual any of the four fighters and I can´t figure out what is wrong...do they need to reach a certain lvl. before I can dual or something like that! I just triede dualling them as soon as I was in the first few seconds of the game...still in Irenicus dungeon AND yes I know that this should belong in the SoA forum but I need these people for a ToB game in multiland with some friends __________________ "Between the years when the oceans drank Atlantis and the rise of the sons of Arius. There was an age undreamed of, when shining kingdoms lay spread across the world. Hither came Conan, the cimmarian, sword in hand. It is I, his chronicler who knows well his saga. Now let me tell you of the days of high adventure!" "Unleash the Casey!" "Make no mistake, should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be looking at an outcome that will have a finality, that is beyound your comprehension. And you will not counting the days or the months or the years, but milleniums in a place with no doors!"

02-09-2002, 10:31 PM	#2
PeeWee Manshoon Join Date: January 25, 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 216	Dual classing comes to humans only AFTER they reach second level. ONE thing to note, you get proficiencies right off from using the warrior model. This is good but you get even MORE proficiency points for rangers. They too have racial enemies which makes them formidable comrades. The warrior classes : fighters, rangers, and paladins get 1-10 hitpoints per level for the frist 9 levels. So the warrior classes could get as much as 10 hitpoints per level. This goes til lvl 9. At lvl 9, any of the mentioned classes above can be at 90 hitpoints. You ALSO get bonuses from high constitution. Humans have a max constitution of 18 which adds +4 hitpoints to what they get per level. I would get a warrior to at least lvl 9 to get maximum usage out of this table, then dual him to another class. This gives the most hp but you can dual anytime after level 2. I believe barbarians have a hitpoint table with a range of 1-12 instead of 1-10 for the first 9 lvls. The human race is the only race which can dual class....while others can multi-class ONLY if their stats meet the requirements for both. If you wanted to multi-class an elven fighter to mage, he would need to have the proper mimimal stats for both fighter and mage. If he doesn't, then you wouldn't even see the multi-class selection box highlighted. And just because humans can dual class doesn't mean you can have a paladin dualing to a mage. There are restrictions. So hope that clears up some of the confusion. __________________ <i>just,</i><p><b>PeeWee</b><br />

02-09-2002, 10:40 PM	#3
Sparhawk Quintesson Join Date: June 2, 2001 Location: In the oldest monarchy - Denmark Age: 47 Posts: 1,071	Thanx...but I´m still in dire straits regarding this problem. My four fighters all have the stats needed for the dualling but the dualbox isn´t highlighted and since U start at lvl. 7 in SoA I should be able to dual right away unless of course U mean that it is at 9th lvl I can dual the characters __________________ "Between the years when the oceans drank Atlantis and the rise of the sons of Arius. There was an age undreamed of, when shining kingdoms lay spread across the world. Hither came Conan, the cimmarian, sword in hand. It is I, his chronicler who knows well his saga. Now let me tell you of the days of high adventure!" "Unleash the Casey!" "Make no mistake, should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be looking at an outcome that will have a finality, that is beyound your comprehension. And you will not counting the days or the months or the years, but milleniums in a place with no doors!"

02-09-2002, 10:49 PM	#4
Sparhawk Quintesson Join Date: June 2, 2001 Location: In the oldest monarchy - Denmark Age: 47 Posts: 1,071	take for example my fighter Artemis Darkshade: Elf str: 17 Dex: 19 Con: 15 Int: 17 Wis: 16 Cha: 18 He is of neutral Good alignement and has high mastery in scimitars and a couple of points in dualwielding...Yet I cannot dual him, I´ve tried boosting his exp. by usin cheats but it doesn´t work...that is he DOES get exp. and lvls up but the dualbox is still not highlighted __________________ "Between the years when the oceans drank Atlantis and the rise of the sons of Arius. There was an age undreamed of, when shining kingdoms lay spread across the world. Hither came Conan, the cimmarian, sword in hand. It is I, his chronicler who knows well his saga. Now let me tell you of the days of high adventure!" "Unleash the Casey!" "Make no mistake, should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be looking at an outcome that will have a finality, that is beyound your comprehension. And you will not counting the days or the months or the years, but milleniums in a place with no doors!"

02-09-2002, 11:14 PM	#5
PeeWee Manshoon Join Date: January 25, 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 216	quote: Originally posted by Sparhawk: take for example my fighter Artemis Darkshade: Elf str: 17 Dex: 19 Con: 15 Int: 17 Wis: 16 Cha: 18 He is of neutral Good alignement and has high mastery in scimitars and a couple of points in dualwielding...Yet I cannot dual him, I´ve tried boosting his exp. by usin cheats but it doesn´t work...that is he DOES get exp. and lvls up but the dualbox is still not highlighted H'es an elf. Elves can't dual. They can multi-class. I think for that however you would need to have done it at the character selection. ELVES ARE NOT HUMANS. Multi-class is different from dual classing. YOu do have to pick this at character selection. Just an oversight but seems to be a big one. __________________ <i>just,</i><p><b>PeeWee</b><br />

02-09-2002, 11:32 PM	#6
Sparhawk Quintesson Join Date: June 2, 2001 Location: In the oldest monarchy - Denmark Age: 47 Posts: 1,071	Doh!!! Thanx Peewee...I didn´t really use the head on that one, wich by some curious accident seems to be rather profound for this night Thanx again...gotta go make some changes __________________ "Between the years when the oceans drank Atlantis and the rise of the sons of Arius. There was an age undreamed of, when shining kingdoms lay spread across the world. Hither came Conan, the cimmarian, sword in hand. It is I, his chronicler who knows well his saga. Now let me tell you of the days of high adventure!" "Unleash the Casey!" "Make no mistake, should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be looking at an outcome that will have a finality, that is beyound your comprehension. And you will not counting the days or the months or the years, but milleniums in a place with no doors!"

02-09-2002, 11:41 PM	#7
PeeWee Manshoon Join Date: January 25, 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 216	quote: Originally posted by Sparhawk: Doh!!! Thanx Peewee...I didn´t really use the head on that one, wich by some curious accident seems to be rather profound for this night Thanx again...gotta go make some changes No problem at all. Apeears to be ya getting ready for some great times playing the multiplayer bit. I've been wanting to try it but have like no direction on where to look besides gamespy(from what I hear of cheaters, I'm not even gonna try). Don't have ppl who are into rpgs - mostly counterstrike junkies. Plus I'm clueless on working with LAN's or modems to modems... Have fun with your friends. __________________ <i>just,</i><p><b>PeeWee</b><br />

02-10-2002, 11:54 AM	#8
Sparhawk Quintesson Join Date: June 2, 2001 Location: In the oldest monarchy - Denmark Age: 47 Posts: 1,071	Actually we´re putting up a 100MB hub and just playing among ourselves none of us´d like to get smashed by some totally puffed up character in gamespy...Even though they´d have a hard time against my basic lvl 31 party Sorcerer Mage Paladin Bountyhunter Archer Priest of Thalos __________________ "Between the years when the oceans drank Atlantis and the rise of the sons of Arius. There was an age undreamed of, when shining kingdoms lay spread across the world. Hither came Conan, the cimmarian, sword in hand. It is I, his chronicler who knows well his saga. Now let me tell you of the days of high adventure!" "Unleash the Casey!" "Make no mistake, should you choose to test my resolve in this matter, you will be looking at an outcome that will have a finality, that is beyound your comprehension. And you will not counting the days or the months or the years, but milleniums in a place with no doors!"

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