watchers keep

dark soul · 12-26-2002, 01:11 PM

another question by me today......(sighs and starts feelin kinda stupid)
i havent gone into watchers keep yet and i have heard there is really cool treasures in there.....well i did some quest in chapter 2 and i dont know if im ready yet......i got full plate+1 already for two of my NPC....but most of the weapons i own is +2 and less.....the lvls of my char and the NPC are between 9-11.....am i ready for this or should i comtinue to train and get better weapons?

andrewas · 12-26-2002, 01:18 PM

You might be able to take the first level. But I would recommend +3 or better weapons - there are several available in chapter 2. In picking them up youll gain a few levels as well, which wont hurt.

Alson · 12-26-2002, 01:26 PM

Level 1 should be easily doable.
You can also do Level 2 - but it'll probably won't be that easy.

I say - what's the rush? Go, gather some XP and loot and complete the whole keep post Underdark.

However, if you do the Keep while still in SoA, you'll miss out on all the NPCs Keep-related interactions, so you might want to postpone the Keep until you reach ToB.
Why BioWare chose to restrict the interactions to ToB is beyond me...

Sir Exxon · 12-26-2002, 01:42 PM

Tip/Hint of the Day: The difficulty of Watchers Keep adjusts after your level.

dark soul · 12-26-2002, 01:43 PM

ok i will wait i guess......but about the NPC keep related interation thing......i already went there and accepted the Vigil Knights quest but i havent go in to the buildin itself.....so did i miss anything?

Sir Exxon · 12-26-2002, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dark soul:
ok i will wait i guess......but about the NPC keep related interation thing......i already went there and accepted the Vigil Knights quest but i havent go in to the buildin itself.....so did i miss anything?

I think you're fine, as the interactions happens in the building itself. I'm not completely sure, though.

Alson · 12-26-2002, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sir Exxon:
Tip/Hint of the Day: The difficulty of Watchers Keep adjusts after your level.

Unless you install the "Toughest Dungeon Spawn" component from the Tactics Mod.

dark soul · 12-26-2002, 02:32 PM

ok thx thats all i needed to know for today i think
but i got a really stupid question to ask now......my friend gaved me SoA but it never camed with a manual...i have figured out what most things r all except for THACO....what is THACO and what does it do?

Buster_Wiz · 12-26-2002, 03:08 PM

THACO= to hit armor class zero.... a good explanation would be thus. Say you run across a meanacing kobold with a armor class of 4, while your THACO rating was 7 that would mean that to hit the kobold you must roll a 3 or greater 7-4=3 (THACO-Target AC= minimum value to hit.) So, this pretty much determines your chances to hit a target. This will always hold true except for 1, which always misses, and 20 which always hits. BE aware, that there are many items and skills/proficiencies/situations which modify THACO, so refering to the example above with a +3 THACO sword you would subtract 3 from your THACO giving you a 4 (7-3=4) and against ac of 4 you would always hit except on a 1 (4-4=0)

dark soul · 12-26-2002, 03:52 PM

so thats what THACO does.....i thought it was useless
thx Buster_Wiz

12-26-2002, 01:18 PM	#2
andrewas Harper Join Date: October 2, 2001 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Age: 43 Posts: 4,774	You might be able to take the first level. But I would recommend +3 or better weapons - there are several available in chapter 2. In picking them up youll gain a few levels as well, which wont hurt. __________________ [img]\"http://www.sighost.us/members/Zvijer/andrewas.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

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12-26-2002, 01:11 PM	#1
dark soul The Magister Join Date: November 28, 2002 Location: USA Age: 36 Posts: 119	another question by me today......(sighs and starts feelin kinda stupid) i havent gone into watchers keep yet and i have heard there is really cool treasures in there.....well i did some quest in chapter 2 and i dont know if im ready yet......i got full plate+1 already for two of my NPC....but most of the weapons i own is +2 and less.....the lvls of my char and the NPC are between 9-11.....am i ready for this or should i comtinue to train and get better weapons?

12-26-2002, 01:26 PM	#3
Alson Galvatron Join Date: December 14, 2001 Location: Israel Age: 38 Posts: 2,187	Level 1 should be easily doable. You can also do Level 2 - but it'll probably won't be that easy. I say - what's the rush? Go, gather some XP and loot and complete the whole keep post Underdark. However, if you do the Keep while still in SoA, you'll miss out on all the NPCs Keep-related interactions, so you might want to postpone the Keep until you reach ToB. Why BioWare chose to restrict the interactions to ToB is beyond me...

12-26-2002, 01:42 PM	#4
Sir Exxon Zartan Join Date: October 15, 2001 Location: Oslo, Norway Age: 36 Posts: 5,367	Tip/Hint of the Day: The difficulty of Watchers Keep adjusts after your level.

12-26-2002, 01:43 PM	#5
dark soul The Magister Join Date: November 28, 2002 Location: USA Age: 36 Posts: 119	ok i will wait i guess......but about the NPC keep related interation thing......i already went there and accepted the Vigil Knights quest but i havent go in to the buildin itself.....so did i miss anything?

12-26-2002, 02:32 PM	#8
dark soul The Magister Join Date: November 28, 2002 Location: USA Age: 36 Posts: 119	ok thx thats all i needed to know for today i think but i got a really stupid question to ask now......my friend gaved me SoA but it never camed with a manual...i have figured out what most things r all except for THACO....what is THACO and what does it do?

12-26-2002, 03:08 PM	#9
Buster_Wiz Dungeon Master Join Date: March 16, 2002 Location: TN Age: 42 Posts: 89	THACO= to hit armor class zero.... a good explanation would be thus. Say you run across a meanacing kobold with a armor class of 4, while your THACO rating was 7 that would mean that to hit the kobold you must roll a 3 or greater 7-4=3 (THACO-Target AC= minimum value to hit.) So, this pretty much determines your chances to hit a target. This will always hold true except for 1, which always misses, and 20 which always hits. BE aware, that there are many items and skills/proficiencies/situations which modify THACO, so refering to the example above with a +3 THACO sword you would subtract 3 from your THACO giving you a 4 (7-3=4) and against ac of 4 you would always hit except on a 1 (4-4=0)

12-26-2002, 03:52 PM	#10
dark soul The Magister Join Date: November 28, 2002 Location: USA Age: 36 Posts: 119	so thats what THACO does.....i thought it was useless thx Buster_Wiz

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