Best summons monster against undead?

Kaneida · 03-02-2002, 01:57 PM

I used the Black Spider figurine on the undead and it could do no damage to the undead. Does anyone know by experience what summons monster that can do damage against the undead? Sometimes I'm just lazy to hack and slash, therefore I would like the option to let some other summons monsters do the work for me while I go invisible watching the battle. Thanks for your replies.

J'aran · 03-02-2002, 03:09 PM

What kind of Undead are you referring to? Skeletons, Zombies, Mummies, Vampires, Liches, Ghouls, Ghasts... Lots of these have different resistances/immunities and other powers.

Skeleton Warriors, from the Raise Undead spell if the caster is above 15th level, usually work well. They attack with a Twohandsword +1, so they can hit monsters that are immune to normal weapons (lots of Undead are - it seems to me that this is your problem), and they have good magic resistance and are immune to charm/domination spells.

koconnor100 · 03-02-2002, 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by Kaneida:
I used the Black Spider figurine on the undead and it could do no damage to the undead. Does anyone know by experience what summons monster that can do damage against the undead? Sometimes I'm just lazy to hack and slash, therefore I would like the option to let some other summons monsters do the work for me while I go invisible watching the battle. Thanks for your replies.

Spider Spawn is cool
The spiders get stronger and stronger as you level up.
Sword Spiders when your mage hits level 12.

Oh , Summon Undead (5th level) the one that raises skeletons for yo ? Those skeletons turn into skeletal warriors at level 15, very powerful. Forgot the name of the spell but clerics have it as a level 3 and wizards as a level 5 spell.

Nifft the Nimble · 03-02-2002, 03:32 PM

FIRE ELEMENTALS!

They are immune to +1 and worse weapons, so most undead can't touch them -- including Skeletal Warriors.

Undead which can't touch Fire Elementals:
+ Skeletons, Skeletal Warriors
+ Zombies, Ghouls, Greater Ghouls, Ghasts, Lacedons
+ Shadows, Shadow Fiends
+ Mummies, Greater Mummies
+ Vampiric Mists, Poison Mists, Wandering Horrors

Undead which can touch (and severely hurt) Fire Elementals:
+ Vampires, Vampyres
+ Wraiths, Devil Shades, Death Shades
+ Ghoul Lords

... so if you send your Fire Elemental into a bunch of shadows with a couple of wraiths, be sure to take out the wraiths fast with your archers / spellcasters.

Fire Elemental are one of the best reasons to have a Druid in your party!

-- Nifft

Kaneida · 03-02-2002, 07:09 PM

Wow! Some great replies. Thanks guys. I'll try your suggestions.

03-02-2002, 03:15 PM	#3
koconnor100 The Magister Join Date: March 1, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 144	quote: Originally posted by Kaneida: I used the Black Spider figurine on the undead and it could do no damage to the undead. Does anyone know by experience what summons monster that can do damage against the undead? Sometimes I'm just lazy to hack and slash, therefore I would like the option to let some other summons monsters do the work for me while I go invisible watching the battle. Thanks for your replies. Spider Spawn is cool The spiders get stronger and stronger as you level up. Sword Spiders when your mage hits level 12. Oh , Summon Undead (5th level) the one that raises skeletons for yo ? Those skeletons turn into skeletal warriors at level 15, very powerful. Forgot the name of the spell but clerics have it as a level 3 and wizards as a level 5 spell. __________________ [url]\"http://www.geocities.com/koconnor100\" target=\"_blank\">www.geocities.com/koconnor100</a><br />

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03-02-2002, 01:57 PM	#1
Kaneida The Magister Join Date: February 23, 2002 Location: Not here Posts: 113	I used the Black Spider figurine on the undead and it could do no damage to the undead. Does anyone know by experience what summons monster that can do damage against the undead? Sometimes I'm just lazy to hack and slash, therefore I would like the option to let some other summons monsters do the work for me while I go invisible watching the battle. Thanks for your replies.

03-02-2002, 03:09 PM	#2
J'aran Mephistopheles Join Date: December 12, 2001 Location: Fryslân, The Netherlands Age: 46 Posts: 1,493	What kind of Undead are you referring to? Skeletons, Zombies, Mummies, Vampires, Liches, Ghouls, Ghasts... Lots of these have different resistances/immunities and other powers. Skeleton Warriors, from the Raise Undead spell if the caster is above 15th level, usually work well. They attack with a Twohandsword +1, so they can hit monsters that are immune to normal weapons (lots of Undead are - it seems to me that this is your problem), and they have good magic resistance and are immune to charm/domination spells.

03-02-2002, 03:32 PM	#4
Nifft the Nimble Avatar Join Date: October 4, 2001 Location: NYC Forever! Age: 51 Posts: 520	FIRE ELEMENTALS! They are immune to +1 and worse weapons, so most undead can't touch them -- including Skeletal Warriors. Undead which can't touch Fire Elementals: + Skeletons, Skeletal Warriors + Zombies, Ghouls, Greater Ghouls, Ghasts, Lacedons + Shadows, Shadow Fiends + Mummies, Greater Mummies + Vampiric Mists, Poison Mists, Wandering Horrors Undead which can touch (and severely hurt) Fire Elementals: + Vampires, Vampyres + Wraiths, Devil Shades, Death Shades + Ghoul Lords ... so if you send your Fire Elemental into a bunch of shadows with a couple of wraiths, be sure to take out the wraiths fast with your archers / spellcasters. Fire Elemental are one of the best reasons to have a Druid in your party! -- Nifft

03-02-2002, 07:09 PM	#5
Kaneida The Magister Join Date: February 23, 2002 Location: Not here Posts: 113	Wow! Some great replies. Thanks guys. I'll try your suggestions.

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