Upgraded sys is now slower (tech?)

huma · 12-06-2001, 02:54 AM

OK here is the deal.My old pc would consistantly score around 5350 on 3dmark2000.It was a PIII 1000,284mb of ram and a 32mb geforce 2 card.
I upgraded to a PIV 1700,512mb ram.Ran 3dmark2000 and received a score of 3500+ -.Ran 3dmark2001=696+-.Upgraded video card to a 64mb nvidia card.I still can not get results anywhere near as good as my older much much slower system.Test settings I used were identical.Besides the upgrades listed there was nothing else changed on my system.OS is still win me.Motherboard is an asus p4 blah blah blah.So far my rather hefty investment in speed has backfired.Anyone know why?

Ziroc · 12-06-2001, 05:24 AM

quote:
Originally posted by huma:
OK here is the deal.My old pc would consistantly score around 5350 on 3dmark2000.It was a PIII 1000,284mb of ram and a 32mb geforce 2 card.
I upgraded to a PIV 1700,512mb ram.Ran 3dmark2000 and received a score of 3500+ -.Ran 3dmark2001=696+-.Upgraded video card to a 64mb nvidia card.I still can not get results anywhere near as good as my older much much slower system.Test settings I used were identical.Besides the upgrades listed there was nothing else changed on my system.OS is still win me.Motherboard is an asus p4 blah blah blah.So far my rather hefty investment in speed has backfired.Anyone know why?

The first thing you should check is that you have the latest drivers installed for your motherboard and especially it's AGP-bus. These drivers make sure that all communication between the graphics adapter, CPU and memory are done using the most efficient way, for example by enabling full AGP-support. If your system is based on an AMD-Processor, updating the drivers is of utmost importance, since most Microsoft Windows - versions have very limited out-of-the-box support for motherboard chipsets commonly used with AMD-processors.

MILAMBER · 12-06-2001, 03:44 PM

3dmark 2001 has a different scoring system then 3dmark 2K does. They made it a little harder to get those crazy scores. I too had the same problem when I went to a P4. I had a ghz PIII and I upgraded to a P4 2ghz w/ 2 gb of PC800 rambus ram and I have a elsa GF3 video card. My score was just barely higher then it was with the PIII. I do know for a fact that the PIII has a higher IPC then the P4 does, but there are more instructions the P4 is optimized for. I don't know. I do know that in general the P4 runs better though. If I were you I'd think about upgrading your OS.

huma · 12-06-2001, 08:46 PM

Thanks for the tips,I knew eventually I would have to upgrade to WIN XP.I guess I will also go to the asus web page and see how out of date my current drivers are.I understand what you are saying about the different scoring used in 3dmark2000 and 2001.What I was dissapointed in was the fact that I scored 2000 to 2500 less, in 3dmark2000,after such a huge upgrade in performance.Anyway wish me luck with the drivers,the last time I updated my video display driver my desktop ended up looking like the one on my old 386.

Larry_OHF · 12-06-2001, 09:58 PM

quote:
64mb nvidia card

Hey! I ordered that same card off of the net today from pricewatch.com! It will be in on Monday. It's whole specs. are...

nVIDIA GeForce2 Pro 3D 64MB DDR AGP 4X TV out ($105.00)

I currently have an ATI
It was bought two years ago, so it can't be as good as this new one that I am ordering, can it? Please tell me I made a good purchase!

huma · 12-07-2001, 01:52 AM

Larry,the video card is fantastic.I just purchased return to castle wolfenstein and the visuals are very nice.My PC has other demons I,m struggling with currently.The asus motherboard drivers I,m trying to download would be great, but I currently can,t connect with their web site.Looks at clock... mumble tomorrow mumble asus mumble

huma · 12-10-2001, 08:59 PM

Well I downloaded the latest drivers for my video card and my system is running smoother now.Finally got into the asus site and guess what,no drivers for my P4B-socket 478 motherboard.AGP ones anyway.I,ve tried 4 dif telephone numbers in manual,none of which are in service.I thought asus motherboards were top end?Performance and service wise.My system is still not running and scoring ANYWHERE near where it should be.If there are no new agp drivers available I must have the most current ones right?If I have all the latest drivers,lots of free mem and everything is talking nicely to each other,what else could be a problem.Thank you for any help or replies.

huma · 12-11-2001, 10:05 PM

Okay,last time...ANYONE ANYONE

12-06-2001, 02:54 AM	#1
huma The Magister Join Date: November 9, 2001 Location: solamnia Posts: 139	OK here is the deal.My old pc would consistantly score around 5350 on 3dmark2000.It was a PIII 1000,284mb of ram and a 32mb geforce 2 card. I upgraded to a PIV 1700,512mb ram.Ran 3dmark2000 and received a score of 3500+ -.Ran 3dmark2001=696+-.Upgraded video card to a 64mb nvidia card.I still can not get results anywhere near as good as my older much much slower system.Test settings I used were identical.Besides the upgrades listed there was nothing else changed on my system.OS is still win me.Motherboard is an asus p4 blah blah blah.So far my rather hefty investment in speed has backfired.Anyone know why? __________________ [IMG]ubb/noncgi/smiles/knightmov.gif[/IMG]<br />----------------------------------<br /><br />Insert witty comment here

12-06-2001, 05:24 AM	#2
Ziroc Ironworks Webmaster *Bow to the Meow* Join Date: January 4, 2001 Location: Lakeland, Florida Age: 51 Posts: 11,720	quote: Originally posted by huma: OK here is the deal.My old pc would consistantly score around 5350 on 3dmark2000.It was a PIII 1000,284mb of ram and a 32mb geforce 2 card. I upgraded to a PIV 1700,512mb ram.Ran 3dmark2000 and received a score of 3500+ -.Ran 3dmark2001=696+-.Upgraded video card to a 64mb nvidia card.I still can not get results anywhere near as good as my older much much slower system.Test settings I used were identical.Besides the upgrades listed there was nothing else changed on my system.OS is still win me.Motherboard is an asus p4 blah blah blah.So far my rather hefty investment in speed has backfired.Anyone know why? The first thing you should check is that you have the latest drivers installed for your motherboard and especially it's AGP-bus. These drivers make sure that all communication between the graphics adapter, CPU and memory are done using the most efficient way, for example by enabling full AGP-support. If your system is based on an AMD-Processor, updating the drivers is of utmost importance, since most Microsoft Windows - versions have very limited out-of-the-box support for motherboard chipsets commonly used with AMD-processors. __________________ Ziroc™ Ironworks Gaming Webmaster www.ironworksgaming.com The Great Escape Studios - 2D/3D Modeling www.tgeweb.com & Ziroc's Facebook Page Visit My Flickr Photo Album

12-06-2001, 03:44 PM	#3
MILAMBER Lord Soth Join Date: March 5, 2001 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,948	3dmark 2001 has a different scoring system then 3dmark 2K does. They made it a little harder to get those crazy scores. I too had the same problem when I went to a P4. I had a ghz PIII and I upgraded to a P4 2ghz w/ 2 gb of PC800 rambus ram and I have a elsa GF3 video card. My score was just barely higher then it was with the PIII. I do know for a fact that the PIII has a higher IPC then the P4 does, but there are more instructions the P4 is optimized for. I don't know. I do know that in general the P4 runs better though. If I were you I'd think about upgrading your OS. __________________ \"The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.\"<br />-General George Patton (1885-1945)<br /> <br />Member of CLAN HADB<br />Founder of The Anti Clan Coalition

12-06-2001, 08:46 PM	#4
huma The Magister Join Date: November 9, 2001 Location: solamnia Posts: 139	Thanks for the tips,I knew eventually I would have to upgrade to WIN XP.I guess I will also go to the asus web page and see how out of date my current drivers are.I understand what you are saying about the different scoring used in 3dmark2000 and 2001.What I was dissapointed in was the fact that I scored 2000 to 2500 less, in 3dmark2000,after such a huge upgrade in performance.Anyway wish me luck with the drivers,the last time I updated my video display driver my desktop ended up looking like the one on my old 386. __________________ [IMG]ubb/noncgi/smiles/knightmov.gif[/IMG]<br />----------------------------------<br /><br />Insert witty comment here

12-06-2001, 09:58 PM	#5
Larry_OHF Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Midlands, South Carolina Age: 48 Posts: 14,759	quote: 64mb nvidia card Hey! I ordered that same card off of the net today from pricewatch.com! It will be in on Monday. It's whole specs. are... nVIDIA GeForce2 Pro 3D 64MB DDR AGP 4X TV out ($105.00) I currently have an ATI It was bought two years ago, so it can't be as good as this new one that I am ordering, can it? Please tell me I made a good purchase! __________________

12-07-2001, 01:52 AM	#6
huma The Magister Join Date: November 9, 2001 Location: solamnia Posts: 139	Larry,the video card is fantastic.I just purchased return to castle wolfenstein and the visuals are very nice.My PC has other demons I,m struggling with currently.The asus motherboard drivers I,m trying to download would be great, but I currently can,t connect with their web site.Looks at clock... mumble tomorrow mumble asus mumble __________________ [IMG]ubb/noncgi/smiles/knightmov.gif[/IMG]<br />----------------------------------<br /><br />Insert witty comment here

12-10-2001, 08:59 PM	#7
huma The Magister Join Date: November 9, 2001 Location: solamnia Posts: 139	Well I downloaded the latest drivers for my video card and my system is running smoother now.Finally got into the asus site and guess what,no drivers for my P4B-socket 478 motherboard.AGP ones anyway.I,ve tried 4 dif telephone numbers in manual,none of which are in service.I thought asus motherboards were top end?Performance and service wise.My system is still not running and scoring ANYWHERE near where it should be.If there are no new agp drivers available I must have the most current ones right?If I have all the latest drivers,lots of free mem and everything is talking nicely to each other,what else could be a problem.Thank you for any help or replies. __________________ [IMG]ubb/noncgi/smiles/knightmov.gif[/IMG]<br />----------------------------------<br /><br />Insert witty comment here

12-11-2001, 10:05 PM	#8
huma The Magister Join Date: November 9, 2001 Location: solamnia Posts: 139	Okay,last time...ANYONE ANYONE __________________ [IMG]ubb/noncgi/smiles/knightmov.gif[/IMG]<br />----------------------------------<br /><br />Insert witty comment here

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