12-16-2001, 07:59 AM | #21 |
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quote: Totally off-topic point, Worm: In your sig, the word 'your' is obviously short for 'you are' and should therefore be written 'you're'. I wouldn't mention it if it were just an in-post mistype, but a mistype in your sig is seen by everyone.... Hope you don't mind me mentoning it? *Fljotsdale ducks to avoid missiles*
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12-16-2001, 08:09 AM | #22 |
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quote: Hey! We are going to disagree again! YES!! Belief can be negative as well as positive! I BELIEVE there is no such thing as a ghost. I cannot prove I am right, therefore, my conviction is a BELIEF. Negative belief. Jabidas BELIEVES there is no god. He cannot prove there is not, therefore his conviction is a BELIEF. Negative belief. YOU BELIEVE there is a god, but you cannot prove it, therefore your conviction is a BELIEF. Positive belief. (Don't say you can prove god exists! You can't prove it, which is why christians and others with a belief in a god are called BELIEVERS). Belief can be either positive or negative, but if a thing is not proveable, but you are convinced of it anyway, it is a BELIEF! So there! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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12-16-2001, 08:27 AM | #23 |
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quote: Hm. I appreciate the points you make, Jabidas, and I agree with a lot that you say. I am an atheist myself! One point, though: I don't think it is always arrogance that motivates one person to try to convince another of his/her viewpoint. It is often conviction. Take an example: You have a terrible dream that your house is on fire and you wake up to the smell of smoke..... You are convinced the house is on fire so you rush round waking all your family and trying to get them to leave the house. Some wake up and leave (or try to help wake others) but some tell you to shut up and go away, then turn over and go back to sleep. Do you leave them and run? Or do you keep shaking them and keep yelling 'FIRE!'? Now, it doesn't matter, for the sake of this example, whether the house is on fire or not... what matters is your conviction and your love for your family. It is not arrogance that makes you try to save your family, it is conviction of danger. Right? The same is true of very many who have a religious conviction... they truly believe that by convincing you to become a believer they will save your life. They do not try to FORCE you to believe, but they earnestly WANT you to do so for YOUR BENEFIT - as they see it. Don't be too hard on them. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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