Off hand weapon’s

Target · 03-16-2004, 10:52 AM

Being new and just starting out, all I’ve got in my off hand is a dagger from the warrior’s guild. Is there an off hand sword out there near by, anything else that’s better or should I not bother with the off hand just yet?

Lord · 03-16-2004, 03:13 PM

There's no point in putting any weapon in your off hand until you've got the skill Double Strike and attribute points in 2nd Weapon.
The assassin's dagger is an excellent 2nd weapon. If you're unpatched, you can hold on to it, too.

Target · 03-16-2004, 03:42 PM

What do you do with your other hand then?

Bungleau · 03-16-2004, 06:29 PM

Ermmmm.... I'm not sure I want to answer that question

But for me, I use it to hold that second weapon until I can use it. You can also put a shield there, but all a shield does is lets you block some attacks. If you have the fletchery skill, you could put a bow in there and start making arrows. Or even shoot bad guys.

But at this point, you don't have fletchery. You'll get double-strike far sooner.

Radek · 03-17-2004, 03:36 AM

Unlike your main hand, the efficiency of your off hand depends on your skills. You can attack even without any skill but you need the Shield skill for parrying attacks and the 2nd Weapon skill for getting 2 attacks per round. Without these skills, your off hand isn't more than an inventory slot.
As far as the 2nd Weapon skill is concerned, it is guild level 4 (or 5?) skill. That means Ishad N'Ha. You will need Doublestrike trait (same guild level, same guilds). The 2nd weapon skill becomes efficient at skill level 8 or so.
As far as the Shield skill is concerned, I have no experience. I am always using two weapons.

Lord · 03-17-2004, 09:34 PM

Skill for the shield can be acquired at any guild level. The bushi dojo and warrior's guild can teah you the doublestrike skill. I'm not 100% sure, but I think the rogue's guild can teach it too.

Bungleau · 03-17-2004, 11:42 PM

Hmmmm... I don't think the rogues' guild teaches it, but when I get back home to go gaming, I'll verify that.

And doublestrike does start to work at lower levels... just not very well. I saw one of the Den hit something with their second weapon last time...

Target · 03-18-2004, 03:48 AM

Cheers,

I think I'll stick a bow in the spair hand for the moment and see what happens.

Bungleau · 03-18-2004, 04:55 PM

One of three things happens when you have a bow in hand:

1. Nothing.

2. You shoot arrows at critters that are out of melee range. This can be really frustrating when you realize you just shot the dragon arrow you needed to give to Torin...

3. You make more arrows, up to 50, if you have the Fletchery trait (level 5, Warrior).

If you don't have arrows in at least one of the slots on the right-hand side, or if you don't have Fletchery, nothing happens.

Target · 03-19-2004, 05:00 AM

Making arrows sounds a good way to get money, must take a while to get up to 50. 5th level is a ways off though.
If I change my Warriors to a Barbarian and Paladin will I still get the chance to get the fletchery trait?

03-16-2004, 10:52 AM	#1
Target Red Dragon Join Date: April 1, 2003 Location: The Midlands Posts: 1,571	Being new and just starting out, all I’ve got in my off hand is a dagger from the warrior’s guild. Is there an off hand sword out there near by, anything else that’s better or should I not bother with the off hand just yet? __________________ Smoke me a kipper...I'll be back for breakfast!! If you can keep your head when all around are loosing theirs...you probably haven’t grasped the situation!!

03-16-2004, 03:13 PM	#2
Lord Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: June 3, 2003 Location: New York Age: 39 Posts: 3,302	There's no point in putting any weapon in your off hand until you've got the skill Double Strike and attribute points in 2nd Weapon. The assassin's dagger is an excellent 2nd weapon. If you're unpatched, you can hold on to it, too. __________________ "You're a thief and a liar." "No, I only lied about being a thief."

03-16-2004, 03:42 PM	#3
Target Red Dragon Join Date: April 1, 2003 Location: The Midlands Posts: 1,571	What do you do with your other hand then? __________________ Smoke me a kipper...I'll be back for breakfast!! If you can keep your head when all around are loosing theirs...you probably haven’t grasped the situation!!

03-16-2004, 06:29 PM	#4
Bungleau 40th Level Warrior Join Date: October 29, 2001 Location: Western Wilds of Michigan Posts: 11,752	Ermmmm.... I'm not sure I want to answer that question But for me, I use it to hold that second weapon until I can use it. You can also put a shield there, but all a shield does is lets you block some attacks. If you have the fletchery skill, you could put a bow in there and start making arrows. Or even shoot bad guys. But at this point, you don't have fletchery. You'll get double-strike far sooner. __________________ B Save Early, Save Often Save Before, Save After Two-Star General, Spelling Soldiers -+-+-+ Give 'em a hug one more time. It might be the last.

03-17-2004, 03:36 AM	#5
Radek Red Dragon Join Date: April 3, 2001 Location: Prague, Czech Republic Posts: 1,586	Unlike your main hand, the efficiency of your off hand depends on your skills. You can attack even without any skill but you need the Shield skill for parrying attacks and the 2nd Weapon skill for getting 2 attacks per round. Without these skills, your off hand isn't more than an inventory slot. As far as the 2nd Weapon skill is concerned, it is guild level 4 (or 5?) skill. That means Ishad N'Ha. You will need Doublestrike trait (same guild level, same guilds). The 2nd weapon skill becomes efficient at skill level 8 or so. As far as the Shield skill is concerned, I have no experience. I am always using two weapons. __________________ My name is Demon\'s Last Day. Yes, the last one.

03-17-2004, 09:34 PM	#6
Lord Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: June 3, 2003 Location: New York Age: 39 Posts: 3,302	Skill for the shield can be acquired at any guild level. The bushi dojo and warrior's guild can teah you the doublestrike skill. I'm not 100% sure, but I think the rogue's guild can teach it too. __________________ "You're a thief and a liar." "No, I only lied about being a thief."

03-17-2004, 11:42 PM	#7
Bungleau 40th Level Warrior Join Date: October 29, 2001 Location: Western Wilds of Michigan Posts: 11,752	Hmmmm... I don't think the rogues' guild teaches it, but when I get back home to go gaming, I'll verify that. And doublestrike does start to work at lower levels... just not very well. I saw one of the Den hit something with their second weapon last time... __________________ B Save Early, Save Often Save Before, Save After Two-Star General, Spelling Soldiers -+-+-+ Give 'em a hug one more time. It might be the last.

03-18-2004, 03:48 AM	#8
Target Red Dragon Join Date: April 1, 2003 Location: The Midlands Posts: 1,571	Cheers, I think I'll stick a bow in the spair hand for the moment and see what happens. __________________ Smoke me a kipper...I'll be back for breakfast!! If you can keep your head when all around are loosing theirs...you probably haven’t grasped the situation!!

03-18-2004, 04:55 PM	#9
Bungleau 40th Level Warrior Join Date: October 29, 2001 Location: Western Wilds of Michigan Posts: 11,752	One of three things happens when you have a bow in hand: 1. Nothing. 2. You shoot arrows at critters that are out of melee range. This can be really frustrating when you realize you just shot the dragon arrow you needed to give to Torin... 3. You make more arrows, up to 50, if you have the Fletchery trait (level 5, Warrior). If you don't have arrows in at least one of the slots on the right-hand side, or if you don't have Fletchery, nothing happens. __________________ B Save Early, Save Often Save Before, Save After Two-Star General, Spelling Soldiers -+-+-+ Give 'em a hug one more time. It might be the last.

03-19-2004, 05:00 AM	#10
Target Red Dragon Join Date: April 1, 2003 Location: The Midlands Posts: 1,571	Making arrows sounds a good way to get money, must take a while to get up to 50. 5th level is a ways off though. If I change my Warriors to a Barbarian and Paladin will I still get the chance to get the fletchery trait? __________________ Smoke me a kipper...I'll be back for breakfast!! If you can keep your head when all around are loosing theirs...you probably haven’t grasped the situation!!

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