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Old 08-28-2001, 01:54 PM   #11
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Me too! I'm gonna go have a bath then go out to rehearsal! See y'all later!

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Old 08-28-2001, 02:01 PM   #12
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Me too! I'm gonna go have a bath then go out to rehearsal! See y'all later!

When you get back, tell us what you're rehearsing for! Cool!

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Old 08-28-2001, 05:30 PM   #13
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When you get back, tell us what you're rehearsing for! Cool!
Pantomime. Jack and the Beanstalk this year. I'm playing the part of one of 'The Two Fat Ladies', (well known UK TV cooks) who are making a 'guest appearance'. I'm very pleased - I play the biker one, which is appropriate 'cos I used to be a motorcyclist...
I have never been one to cook 'posh nosh' though, lol!
Also, I don't have too many lines which is a relief after being in Abigail's Party!

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Old 08-28-2001, 06:00 PM   #14
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Fjots you cannot force us to way GATS
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Old 08-28-2001, 06:03 PM   #15
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Fljotsdale: By "pantomime" do you mean what we call in the states puppet theatre? That's fascinating! It sounds like it will be fun for you, especially with the role you have.

Over here, a pantomime is a play that's done without words; just people moving and acting like charades. Some people get annoyed by it, but I think that's by the "in your face" street mimes who "pick" on passersby at carnivals, LOL! I've been to an actual stage pantomime and it was pretty cool.

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Old 08-28-2001, 06:13 PM   #16
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No! British Panto is quite a different tradition. They are based on Nursery Tales, like Jack and the Beanstalk, Babes in the Wood, etc. We TALK, don't mime. Traditionally, the Dame is played by a man, and the Leading Man is played by a woman. There are ALWAYS custard pies thrown at some stage in the proceedings (this year I am one of the ones that get custard pied ). It is full of innuendo that is supposed to go over the heads of the children and amuse the adults, but it's often the other way round...!
It is all vey silly and lots of fun!
And it is hard work to make it work properly... Timing is everything!

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Old 08-28-2001, 06:20 PM   #17
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Fjots you cannot force us to way GATS
Lol! Hullo, Rikard!
You mean I can't twist your arm and FORCE you read educational stuff? Sigh. Can't say I blame you, lol!
But the GATS thread IS interesting!

I've looked at your sig. Very nice. Are you saying it is THE SIG?
I still don't understand it, if so! I'm not all that bright, you know - but don't tell anyone, 'cos some people in here think I'm clever!

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Old 08-28-2001, 09:41 PM   #18
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No! British Panto is quite a different tradition. They are based on Nursery Tales, like Jack and the Beanstalk, Babes in the Wood, etc. We TALK, don't mime. Traditionally, the Dame is played by a man, and the Leading Man is played by a woman. There are ALWAYS custard pies thrown at some stage in the proceedings (this year I am one of the ones that get custard pied ). It is full of innuendo that is supposed to go over the heads of the children and amuse the adults, but it's often the other way round...!
It is all vey silly and lots of fun!
And it is hard work to make it work properly... Timing is everything!


Thanks for explaining that, Fljotsdale. You are right, it is quite different...sounds more like a farce, and less "artsy-fartsy" than an American pantomime. American pantomime I think is a lot like the Old Italian Commedia Del'Arte of Harlequin, Columbine, Punchinello, etc...except no words.

Maybe one day I'll get to see a British panto. Sounds like it's a hoot!




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Old 08-29-2001, 04:59 AM   #19
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No need to delete it, let it serve as a warning to all.

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Old 08-29-2001, 06:43 AM   #20
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And it's turned into an interesting discussion in its own right!

Saz, what you describe is interesting - we now use the word to mean what Fljotsdale described, but it has a long history going back to Roman times where (although I am no expert on Roman theatre) I believe its origins were more like you describe, silent, slapstick humour involving masks. I think it became more serious later as the Roman love of farce went out of fashion.
British Panto is more like the 'Carry On' films type of humour, and is really very British. I'm afraid to say that I hate it, but many people do enjoy it, especially if they take their kids to see it at Christmas - good, not-quite-clean family entertainment!

If anyone has a more intelligent and knowledgeable understanding of the history of early pantomime I would be interested to hear their views.

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