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Yep, Epona, that's a bit above what I calculated it at when I was there in 1999. It was like 0.78 quid per liter IIRC.
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Using any measure like cc or litres or m3 is not taking into account the changes brought about by heat and of course the specific gravity of the fluid. Petrol from one service station to another would have had deliveries at different times and the specific gravity of the petrol you would find to be quite different. IIRC the SG of fuel would be about 0.8, given the grade and amount of impurities this could vary quite easily by about 20%. While these variables while filling a car are not that important, fuelling something like a Boeing 747 would of course be different. The discrepancy of just using cc or m3 could result in on average under or over fill of say 2000 litres and sometimes astronomically more. Now THATS being truly anal [ 03-13-2003, 03:56 AM: Message edited by: wellard ]
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Oi, Rokkenn, MagiK, don't turn this thread into a personal flamewar, k?
Anyway, Uncle M ( ), until such time as Nuclear fusion for power needs is possible, you may well be right. I was rather uplifted to hear about the efforts towards renewable energy in the form of the Hoover Dam, over the river Colorado (of course you know where it is... ) My main annoyance is that in drilling for this oil in Alaska they will be destroying animals. And don't patronise me by explaining "get rid of all that nasty oil so it doesnt ooze up out of the ground and pollute some poor sea otter or seagull ". I'm fifteen years old. I'm not a little frikkin' kiddy! ( ) Besides, seeing as all damages to wildlife involving oil concerns: a)The removal of habitats in order to set up rigs b) the spillage of oil at sea I hardly believe that all that oil will ooze up from miles beneath the ground and coat the "poor sea otter or seagull" unless we remove it from the ground first. Over and out, Johnson. (Was before my time, you're right ) Laterz. [ 03-13-2003, 11:43 AM: Message edited by: Kaltia ]
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As for killing animals, I pointed out that Oil drilling did not kill the animals in alaska where there is current drilling, the Alaskan pipeline didn't kill off the animals, the extensive oil drilling earlier in the 19th and 20th centuries in Pennsylvania, Texas, Oklahoma and California didn't kill off the wild life there, there is still an abundance of wildlife in the North Atlantic where Companies from England and other nations drill, and as far as I can tell, the middle east is still teaming with at least the two legged variety of animal. I am saying that drilling and exploring doesnt kill off the native life forms. It actually doesn't really affect a large percentage of the total land mass. Edit: Oil Oozing from miles below the sea...read recently (Think it was in the MIT Technology in Review magazine that I subscribe to) the estimated oil seepage from the ocean floor in the Gulf of Mexico (Due to natural causesis in the tens of thousands of barrels annually.....oil doesnt just stay in its nice little pocket under the earth...it does get into the environment natuarally. [ 03-13-2003, 01:19 PM: Message edited by: MagiK ] |
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I did neglect to mention that a lot of the Oil that seeps up from the ocean floor stays mixed with sediments and silt, unlike an oil tanker leak which permeats from the top down, but either way it does get into the eco system.
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