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Oops, no wait, it was the Democratic National Convention that put the protestors behind barbed wire. [img]smile.gif[/img]
I understand the need to allow people to protest without allowing them to interfere with or block public events, but after all the hubbub W has been given about Free Speech Zones in the past, I find it incredibly humorous that the DNC put their Free Speech Zone behind barbed wire, and no one has seen fit to mention it here. Somehow, I don't think I'll have to be the one to start the upcoming thread about the FS Zone at the Republican Convention. [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] Hopefully the Republicans will be smart enough to opt out of the concentration camp look and feel though. Now, I'm not saying that it is ok for the Republicans to have a Free Speech Zone because the DNC has done it or vice versa. I'm saying Free Speech Zones, in general, are not an abomination, but if anyone feels they are, then they should be outraged at the DNC. Quote:
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07-28-2004, 06:05 PM | #2 |
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Heard of it. Silly me was hoping that at least one of the two parties standing a chance over there was for free speech. Too bad, really
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07-28-2004, 06:39 PM | #4 |
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Gnarf, it isn't really as bad as all that. I'm sure the protestors would have preferred to block the entrance, but the truth is their rights don't allow them to stop the other folks from enjoying their right to assemble.
Sorry Groj, but I couldn't make it past the first paragraph. She's a political commentator and not a comedienne. Too bad she couldn't have realized that before she submitted that experiment. [ 07-28-2004, 07:00 PM: Message edited by: Ronn_Bman ]
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You can say a whole lot'a bad stuff about that column, but I don't get how anyone can find it "not funny"...
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07-28-2004, 09:47 PM | #6 |
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Actually the State Police, BPD and the Secret Service have everything to do with the "free speech zone" not the Democratic Party or Convention organizers.
Of course seeing this zone up close and in person it is an ominous little place- a gravel lot surrounded by fence, barbed wire ,and underneath green metal train tracks. There is only one entrance and exit, room for only 1,000 people ( out of an estimated 10,000 potential protesters!) and no bathrooms inside the zone at all.
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07-28-2004, 11:02 PM | #7 |
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This is a letdown. Judging from the thread's title, I expected to hear about the rights of a single protestor being violated. That had potential to be most amusing. How unfortunate...
Edit- Thank you. [ 07-30-2004, 12:11 AM: Message edited by: Illumina Drathiran'ar ]
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07-29-2004, 06:08 AM | #8 |
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I do think it is hilariously ironic that the DNC has taken this measure after seeing the Bush Administration repeatedly blasted on this forum for the same thing. I certainly hope those who were so upset before will express the same level of disdain towards the DNC now.
As for myself, I maintain the same position I always have - that this is not a restriction of Free Speech. The protestors are being allowed to voice their opinions, but they are being kept a "safe" distance away from main venue in order to avoid any potential conflicts with DNC supporters. I seriously doubt any of the protestors (in any of the incidents ever mentioned here) represent a true "threat" against the group they are protesting. However, when you mix stalwart protesters with staunch supporters, the emotional confrontations often DO lead to scuffles and/or even outright fights - which makes the job of the security personnel that much more difficult. So I still have no problem with keeping two emotional groups separated to avoid potential clashes. I will also go a step further to say that the actions of the Boston protesters creating mock scenes of Guantanamo and Abu Gharib are deplorable. I'm sure they had no problem with anti-Bush protestors being kept a "safe distance" away from the President and his entourage(sp?), so they need to be willing to accept the same circumstances.
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Dude, that sucks.
ps:I can't say I'm keen on the whole 'party convention' thing anyway. They just look like hideously choreographed indoctrination festivals to me. Come to think of it, I'm not too keen on the institutionalised factionalism that is the party system, period. Yuck... [img]graemlins/1disgust.gif[/img] [ 07-29-2004, 06:20 AM: Message edited by: The Hierophant ]
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Well, even if you still want to blame the Bush-Admin-run Secret Service, you now have to admit that at least Boy George is being fair and equal in his application of the policy. Or do you now agree that "Free Speech Zones" have been standard procedure established and enforced by the Secret Service for the last several Administrations?
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