ATTN: Phil McCavity

[Charlie]

Originally posted by Talthyr Malkaviel: quote: Originally posted by Gabriel: And I not saying ban them to to spaming, just due to the exess at which posted the same piece of spam. Yeah, but if you ask me, I'd rather have the board spammed a bit by some of the older blue-boarders than have them leave.

So the drilling wasn't so killing, now you've turned and the drilling you've earned... long may you drill.

We love you guys!

[Talthyr Malkaviel]

Ah, we know you drill us.
(Man, it's more infectious than laughter)

[Epona]

Originally posted by Gabriel: quote: Originally posted by Talthyr Malkaviel: quote: Originally posted by Gabriel: And I not saying ban them to to spaming, just due to the exess at which posted the same piece of spam. Yeah, but if you ask me, I'd rather have the board spammed a bit by some of the older blue-boarders than have them leave.

Fine let them spam BUT IF they must spam, let them do so with some alteration! Make a bunnie thread, pure but enjoyable spam made by an old blue. Posting the same thing again and again is tedious, dull and imgiative, If i posted bluebird 5+ time on each thread I don't think it would be that funny.[/QUOTE]Gabe, sorry but I can't let this pass. I thought the bunny threads were a complete steaming pile of ****ing bs drivel... and I didn't complain, because some people were obviously enjoyiing themselves. Just extend the same TOLERANCE to us as we extend to you - go whine elsewhere mate. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Gabriel]

Originally posted by ladyzekke: Oh I'm sorry Gabriel, I hope your medical problem isn't a serious one. And as for getting fired, well we all move sometimes from job to job, you will get another one, maybe even one better than the one you had before, you never know. [img]smile.gif[/img] You are a smart guy, I personally don't see you having any problems on that end I guess I must have missed that serious post of yours under another name, but then ugain maybe I did see it but didn't know it was you? Well shoot, either way, glad you are still around Gabriel [img]smile.gif[/img]

Medical speaking I got mild spine indiffter(Not even attenting to spell it) But it just means my spines bent and will suffer back pain the rest of my life. As for being fired, I hated the job anyway it just that the lied and broke the law to do it but I wasn't there long enough to do anything about it.
The post was under the name of.... either Grundal, Tuxdo mask or Vox...I think...I know one was used here and rest were on other boards.
Thank for the complaint by the way [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 04-03-2002, 08:10 PM: Message edited by: Gabriel ]

[Lord of Alcohol]

Originally posted by Gabriel: quote: Originally posted by ladyzekke: Oh I'm sorry Gabriel, I hope your medical problem isn't a serious one. And as for getting fired, well we all move sometimes from job to job, you will get another one, maybe even one better than the one you had before, you never know. [img]smile.gif[/img] You are a smart guy, I personally don't see you having any problems on that end I guess I must have missed that serious post of yours under another name, but then ugain maybe I did see it but didn't know it was you? Well shoot, either way, glad you are still around Gabriel [img]smile.gif[/img]

Medical speaking I got mild spine indiffter(Not even attenting to spell it) But it just means my spines bent and will suffer back pain the rest of my life. As for being fired, I hated the job anyway it just that the lied and broke the law to do it but I wasn't there long enough to do anything about it.
The post was under the name of.... either Grundal, Tuxdo mask or Vox...I think...I know one was used here and rest were on other boards.
Thank for the complaint by the way [img]smile.gif[/img] [/QUOTE]Is there any possible way I could drill you about this?

[Rikard_OHF]

Originally posted by Sazerac: quote: Originally posted by Rikard_OHF: What I did was very different then spamming every thread with the same boring line And besides I did get Banned I don't see why you should be allowed to stay

Oh, do lighten up, Rikard. This is an ENTIRELY different situation, as you very well know.[/QB][/QUOTE]Bah I can't have any fun
For Once I'm playing the Irritated old member and already I have mods yelling at me
And I DO still like some Phil-meatloaf

[Rikard_OHF]

Originally posted by ladyzekke: quote: Originally posted by Gabriel: quote: Originally posted by Sazerac: Phil' has already been terminated, and those in question have had their warning as per all members of Ironworks. I think it's time for everyone to let this drop...NOW. Incredible how many *mini-mods* come out of the woodwork at the first scent of blood...sheesh. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Sazerac, I take offance at the term mini-mod, I speaking (Well posting) my opion on the matter, and the lenint senstance recived from it, their is no rule in terms of serivce stating that we can't do otherwise, oh and as a bannie member, I never recived any warning.[/QUOTE]Hi Gabriel! [img]smile.gif[/img] You weren't banned from IWs were you? Never saw it if so, but I do miss a lot is seems.. soo. How've you been?[/QUOTE]Hey Wendy Did you read the MSN chatwindow i had with LofA?
Doncha agree we should bann the whole Phil group cept for one female :-p

[Rikard_OHF]

Originally posted by Sazerac: Incredible how many *mini-mods* come out of the woodwork at the first scent of blood...sheesh. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

You should know better then to call me a mini mod and to think I meand what I said :-p

[Memnoch]

None of you can truly claim to be bipartisan when it comes to defining spam. Spam between people who know and like each other is not considered spam by them, I’m sure. Everyone talks junk to their friends – it’s how people bond together and develop friendships. But others who are outside that particular social/age group or don't find that particular brand of humor funny would probably find the spam either infantile, irritating, or childish. Exampes:

• The Bunny thread – enjoyed by some as it has caused them to develop friendships and brought smiles to their faces, hated by others as being revolting, repulsive, nauseous, extremely irritating, etc. (which it was towards the end)
• Phil McCavity – enjoyed by some as an in-joke between some of the most enduring people on the board as they finally got the chance to meet in person, hated by others as being repetitive (which it was, I have to admit)
  

Bottom line? The spam that you are not in on, is never good spam.
What this has come down to is a My spam is better than your spam debate. This is simple personality/preference conflicts that are common on a board of this size. You go to a party, you won't like everyone there (unless you're roaring drunk). It's been happening ever since human beings came out of the jungles and began to congregate in groups.

Unfortunately I'm not allowed to be subjective when it comes to defining what is *good* spam or what is *bad* spam. I think that we draw the line at repetitive, nonsense posts. With almost everything else we're quite lenient (whatever Tiamat might believe ).

I would just ask EVERYONE to moderate whatever spam they choose to do here. For those who have to read it - be patient when it's obviously friends talking. Use your back button if you find it tiresome. Read another thread. For those who are doing it - know when the joke has gone too far, and gracefully end it before it starts to head to places that none of us want it to. And don't pollute other threads with it, especially on-topic threads. This is always how jokes turn sour.

This makes it easier for everyone – including moderators and admins. I want to be able to enjoy myself when I come here too.

Finally, there's a difference between friendly spamming and provocative spamming, which is pretty close to trolling (provoking/goading reactions from people) in my book. Let’s make sure that we don’t degenerate into the latter, as flames are sure to follow. Respect for others – that’s our cornerstone here at Ironworks. I would hate to see our forum split because of debate over whose spam is better, because none of us would enjoy it here after that.

[ 04-04-2002, 03:58 AM: Message edited by: Memnoch ]

[LennonCook]

Originally posted by Memnoch: None of you can truly claim to be bipartisan when it comes to defining spam. Spam between people who know and like each other is not considered spam by them, I’m sure. Everyone talks junk to their friends – it’s how people bond together and develop friendships. But others who are outside that particular social/age group would find the spam either infantile, irritating, or childish. Exampes: The Bunny thread – enjoyed by some as it has caused them to develop friendships and brought smiles to their faces, hated by others as being revolting, repulsive, nauseous, extremely irritating, etc. (which it was towards the end) Phil McCavity – enjoyed by some as an in-joke between some of the most enduring people on the board as they finally got the chance to meet in person, hated by others as being repetitive (which it was, I have to admit) Bottom line? The spam that you are not in on, is not good spam. Am I right? At the end of the day, what it boils down to is: My spam is better than your spam. It’s been happening ever since human beings came out of the jungles and began to congregate in groups. Unfortunately I don’t have a choice when it comes to defining what is *good* spam or what is *bad* spam. I would just ask EVERYONE to moderate whatever spam they choose to do here. Know when the joke has gone too far, and gracefully end it before it starts to head to places that none of us want it to. This makes it easier for everyone – including moderators and admins. I want to be able to enjoy myself when I come here too. But there's a difference between friendly spamming and provocative spamming, which is pretty close to trolling (provoking/goading reactions from people) in my book. Let’s make sure that we don’t degenerate into the latter, as flames are sure to follow. Respect for others – that’s our cornerstone here at Ironworks. I would hate to see our forum split because of debate over whose spam is better, because none of us would enjoy it here after that.

Amen to that.