Am I the only one who wishes...

Black Dragon · 01-24-2002, 08:11 PM

Am I the only one here who wonders why it seems like the world is getting worse everyday, even with all the people trying to fix it. It just seems like nothing goes right in the world today. I'm not gonna get specific but please give me your opinions.

Vaskez · 01-24-2002, 08:17 PM

I think it depends almost completely on your mood....which in turn does depend on the circumstances of course, but it's mostly psychological. For example when you are down you think "oh damn that exam tomorrow is gonna go really badly and I haven't really got that many good friends and there's probably gonna be another war soon." But when you are in a good mood you're more like: "Hmm I think that exam might go ok, all I gotta do is a bit more study and damn that person's a good mate and heh, the next round of talks will probably clear the path for peace." Hell, I find that I look at things in completely the opposite light when I'm in a better/worse mood and I can be put in a good mood just by the sun shining as opposed to it being overcast.

Aelia Jusa · 01-24-2002, 08:24 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Black Dragon:
It just seems like nothing goes right in the world today.

I think this sentence is key. It seems that way often because that's what we see in the media. A lot of good things happen that we don't know about. It's like with your parents - say your mother tells you to pick up your clothes or something. And you don't occasionally - but she only notices when you don't pick them up, not when you do because when you do there's nothing to notice. So to her it seems like you never pick up your clothes because the only time she notices your clothes is when you haven't picked them up. Okay stupid example

Vaskez · 01-24-2002, 08:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Aelia Jusa:

I think this sentence is key. It seems that way often because that's what we see in the media. A lot of good things happen that we don't know about. It's like with your parents - say your mother tells you to pick up your clothes or something. And you don't occasionally - but she only notices when you don't pick them up, not when you do because when you do there's nothing to notice. So to her it seems like you never pick up your clothes because the only time she notices your clothes is when you haven't picked them up. Okay stupid example

No actually that's a good example...Aelia, you see it quite clearly how it is...

Sazerac · 01-24-2002, 08:59 PM

No, I think it's a great example, Aelia. Thanks for that.

Black Dragon, I agree with what was said above re: the media. That's why I make a point not to watch the news unless there's specifically something I want to find out about (like Stanley Marcus' obiturary the other night; he was one of the founders of Neiman-Marcus and just passed away at age 95). Otherwise, I get my news from the Internet where I can pick and choose what I want to find out about and leave all the rest of the garbage alone.

But I understand where you're coming from. When I was 18-19, that was back in 1982-83, and all of us in that generation thought we were going to be on the brink of nuclear war because Reagan was president; we just had the issue with Russia over Grenada and Yuri Andropov, the Soviet premiere at the time, had threatened military retaliation. The "Star Wars" initiative project was being instituted. The news was filled with negativity, negativity, negativity, and even the popular music of the time (Sting's "I Hope the Russians Love Their Children, Too" and Nena's "99 Luftballoons") was all gloomy about the prospects of nuclear holocaust.

You know what? Nothing happened. And after I got a bit older, I quit worrying, and quit believing everything that was said on the news or in print. The same holds true now.

Why worry? It will most likely never happen. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Cheers,
-Sazerac

Black Dragon · 01-24-2002, 09:00 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Aelia Jusa:

I think this sentence is key. It seems that way often because that's what we see in the media. A lot of good things happen that we don't know about. It's like with your parents - say your mother tells you to pick up your clothes or something. And you don't occasionally - but she only notices when you don't pick them up, not when you do because when you do there's nothing to notice. So to her it seems like you never pick up your clothes because the only time she notices your clothes is when you haven't picked them up. Okay stupid example

Your example makes perfect sense Aelia, It clearly shows a good example of the way people's minds work nowadays. Oh yeah and for Vaskez, I was just on your other topic.

quote:
Originally posted by Vaskez:
I got an "earful" in an email today from someone on this forum that I'm arrogant and a total loser. I know I make sarcastic jokes all the time and expect people to take them as unseriously as I do...maybe I shouldn't.

So, come on, out with it...am I really that bad? Here is your chance to tell me....I won't be offended in the slightest, although I will take it into account and maybe try and act differently. Then again you can just tell me to piss off and say this is a stupid thread to make...I don't mind either way

Tell the person who emailed you to lighten up.

Yorick · 01-24-2002, 10:27 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Black Dragon:
Am I the only one here who wonders why it seems like the world is getting worse everyday, even with all the people trying to fix it. It just seems like nothing goes right in the world today. I'm not gonna get specific but please give me your opinions.

To quote Bernard F. Suzanne's summary of some of Plato's thought:

quote:

"men cannot get along with one another and live in peace, social peace that is, unless they first bring peace and harmony between the various sides of their own selves, between their passions and their reason, between their thoughts, their words, and their acts. "

As this was discussed circa 400BC, I think it's fair to say the world and it's people are, and have always been, at once both a decaying mess, and yet also jewels of infinite beauty.

Fix what you can, accept what you can't, and work on discerning the difference. [img]smile.gif[/img]

fable · 01-24-2002, 10:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Yorick:

As this was discussed circa 400BC, I think it's fair to say the world and it's people are, and have always been, at once both a decaying mess, and yet also jewels of infinite beauty.

Fix what you can, accept what you can't, and work on discerning the difference. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Very, very thoughtful post. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Yorick · 01-24-2002, 10:45 PM

quote:
Originally posted by fable:

Very, very thoughtful post. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Why thankyou Fable. [img]smile.gif[/img]

01-24-2002, 08:11 PM	#1
Black Dragon Zhentarim Guard Join Date: November 11, 2001 Location: Virginia Age: 37 Posts: 352	Am I the only one here who wonders why it seems like the world is getting worse everyday, even with all the people trying to fix it. It just seems like nothing goes right in the world today. I'm not gonna get specific but please give me your opinions. __________________ Black owns!<br />Dragons rule!!<br /> [img]\"http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/ladyzekke/blackdragonpic.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br /> <b>If the media decided that breathing wasn\'t \"cool\" anymore, half the teenage population would be gone.</b> --Someguy

01-24-2002, 08:17 PM	#2
Vaskez Takhisis Follower Join Date: April 30, 2001 Location: szép Magyarország (well not right now) Posts: 5,089	I think it depends almost completely on your mood....which in turn does depend on the circumstances of course, but it's mostly psychological. For example when you are down you think "oh damn that exam tomorrow is gonna go really badly and I haven't really got that many good friends and there's probably gonna be another war soon." But when you are in a good mood you're more like: "Hmm I think that exam might go ok, all I gotta do is a bit more study and damn that person's a good mate and heh, the next round of talks will probably clear the path for peace." Hell, I find that I look at things in completely the opposite light when I'm in a better/worse mood and I can be put in a good mood just by the sun shining as opposed to it being overcast. __________________ Too set in his ways to ever relate If he could set that aside, there'd be heaven to pay But weathered and aged, time swept him to grave Love conquers all? Damn, I'd say that area's gray

01-24-2002, 08:24 PM	#3
Aelia Jusa Iron Throne Cult Join Date: August 23, 2001 Location: Brisbane, Australia Age: 42 Posts: 4,867	quote: Originally posted by Black Dragon: It just seems like nothing goes right in the world today. I think this sentence is key. It seems that way often because that's what we see in the media. A lot of good things happen that we don't know about. It's like with your parents - say your mother tells you to pick up your clothes or something. And you don't occasionally - but she only notices when you don't pick them up, not when you do because when you do there's nothing to notice. So to her it seems like you never pick up your clothes because the only time she notices your clothes is when you haven't picked them up. Okay stupid example __________________

01-24-2002, 08:26 PM	#4
Vaskez Takhisis Follower Join Date: April 30, 2001 Location: szép Magyarország (well not right now) Posts: 5,089	quote: Originally posted by Aelia Jusa: I think this sentence is key. It seems that way often because that's what we see in the media. A lot of good things happen that we don't know about. It's like with your parents - say your mother tells you to pick up your clothes or something. And you don't occasionally - but she only notices when you don't pick them up, not when you do because when you do there's nothing to notice. So to her it seems like you never pick up your clothes because the only time she notices your clothes is when you haven't picked them up. Okay stupid example No actually that's a good example...Aelia, you see it quite clearly how it is... __________________ Too set in his ways to ever relate If he could set that aside, there'd be heaven to pay But weathered and aged, time swept him to grave Love conquers all? Damn, I'd say that area's gray

01-24-2002, 08:59 PM	#5
Sazerac Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Monroe, LA Age: 60 Posts: 7,387	No, I think it's a great example, Aelia. Thanks for that. Black Dragon, I agree with what was said above re: the media. That's why I make a point not to watch the news unless there's specifically something I want to find out about (like Stanley Marcus' obiturary the other night; he was one of the founders of Neiman-Marcus and just passed away at age 95). Otherwise, I get my news from the Internet where I can pick and choose what I want to find out about and leave all the rest of the garbage alone. But I understand where you're coming from. When I was 18-19, that was back in 1982-83, and all of us in that generation thought we were going to be on the brink of nuclear war because Reagan was president; we just had the issue with Russia over Grenada and Yuri Andropov, the Soviet premiere at the time, had threatened military retaliation. The "Star Wars" initiative project was being instituted. The news was filled with negativity, negativity, negativity, and even the popular music of the time (Sting's "I Hope the Russians Love Their Children, Too" and Nena's "99 Luftballoons") was all gloomy about the prospects of nuclear holocaust. You know what? Nothing happened. And after I got a bit older, I quit worrying, and quit believing everything that was said on the news or in print. The same holds true now. Why worry? It will most likely never happen. [img]smile.gif[/img] Cheers, -Sazerac __________________ "And all my days are trances, and all my nightly dreams, Are where thy grey eye glances, and where thy footstep gleams, In what ethereal dances, by what eternal streams..."

01-24-2002, 09:00 PM	#6
Black Dragon Zhentarim Guard Join Date: November 11, 2001 Location: Virginia Age: 37 Posts: 352	quote: Originally posted by Aelia Jusa: I think this sentence is key. It seems that way often because that's what we see in the media. A lot of good things happen that we don't know about. It's like with your parents - say your mother tells you to pick up your clothes or something. And you don't occasionally - but she only notices when you don't pick them up, not when you do because when you do there's nothing to notice. So to her it seems like you never pick up your clothes because the only time she notices your clothes is when you haven't picked them up. Okay stupid example Your example makes perfect sense Aelia, It clearly shows a good example of the way people's minds work nowadays. Oh yeah and for Vaskez, I was just on your other topic. quote: Originally posted by Vaskez: I got an "earful" in an email today from someone on this forum that I'm arrogant and a total loser. I know I make sarcastic jokes all the time and expect people to take them as unseriously as I do...maybe I shouldn't. So, come on, out with it...am I really that bad? Here is your chance to tell me....I won't be offended in the slightest, although I will take it into account and maybe try and act differently. Then again you can just tell me to piss off and say this is a stupid thread to make...I don't mind either way Tell the person who emailed you to lighten up. __________________ Black owns!<br />Dragons rule!!<br /> [img]\"http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/ladyzekke/blackdragonpic.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br /> <b>If the media decided that breathing wasn\'t \"cool\" anymore, half the teenage population would be gone.</b> --Someguy

01-24-2002, 10:27 PM	#7
Yorick Very Mad Bird Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Breukelen (over the river from New Amsterdam) Age: 52 Posts: 9,246	quote: Originally posted by Black Dragon: Am I the only one here who wonders why it seems like the world is getting worse everyday, even with all the people trying to fix it. It just seems like nothing goes right in the world today. I'm not gonna get specific but please give me your opinions. To quote Bernard F. Suzanne's summary of some of Plato's thought: quote: "men cannot get along with one another and live in peace, social peace that is, unless they first bring peace and harmony between the various sides of their own selves, between their passions and their reason, between their thoughts, their words, and their acts. " As this was discussed circa 400BC, I think it's fair to say the world and it's people are, and have always been, at once both a decaying mess, and yet also jewels of infinite beauty. Fix what you can, accept what you can't, and work on discerning the difference. [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ http://www.hughwilson.com

01-24-2002, 10:41 PM	#8
fable Quintesson Join Date: March 17, 2001 Location: Where I am. Posts: 1,089	quote: Originally posted by Yorick: As this was discussed circa 400BC, I think it's fair to say the world and it's people are, and have always been, at once both a decaying mess, and yet also jewels of infinite beauty. Fix what you can, accept what you can't, and work on discerning the difference. [img]smile.gif[/img] Very, very thoughtful post. [img]smile.gif[/img]

01-24-2002, 10:45 PM	#9
Yorick Very Mad Bird Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Breukelen (over the river from New Amsterdam) Age: 52 Posts: 9,246	quote: Originally posted by fable: Very, very thoughtful post. [img]smile.gif[/img] Why thankyou Fable. [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ http://www.hughwilson.com

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