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Aragorn1 · 07-22-2005, 05:15 AM

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Originally posted by SixOfSpades:

Horcruxes: I doubt the little gold cup theory: Voldemort would only have that much attachment to some random object that Helga owned if he could get a complete set, something owned by all four of them. What I'm guessing is that one of the Horcruxes is being guarded by V himself (last place you'd look, isn't it?), and another is at Hogwarts: Given V's attachment to the place, at least one must be there, and that's not counting the one that ended up there. The possibility of the Sorting Hat occurred to me, but that hardly sems likely, given what we know of the Hat.

How about Gryfindor's sword? YES, the one hung the head master's office, Dumbledore mentioned it in the book as being 'safe,' would be an interesting plot twist...

Larry_OHF · 07-22-2005, 11:23 AM

<font color=skyblue>Spades...I hope you are wrong there about Hermoine.

Now, two people that I am SURE will live through to the end is Luna (Rowling's favorite student), and Hagrid (Curses just bounce off the guy!). </font>

Dron_Cah · 07-22-2005, 12:57 PM

Actually, Six, Neville is pretty much out of the running as "Chosen One." They mentioned that in book 5. Since Voldemort chose Harry, he's pretty much screwed. And I doubt she'll have Harry kill Snape, doesn't seem like her style. We'll see though.

Spelca · 07-22-2005, 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by SixOfSpades:
Did the concept of dipping out some potion and simply dumping it out on the ground not even occur to him? Etc.

I think the the place where the potion was kept would know if he drank it or not. I mean, Harry couldn't use magic to fill the cup with water... so it seems like the place prevented certain things from happening. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 07-22-2005, 02:41 PM: Message edited by: Spelca ]

Ziroc · 07-26-2005, 04:56 AM

The guy that died was NOT who you think it was.. Remember the polyjuice? They didn't talk about it for nothing. [img]smile.gif[/img] And the hand thing is something you'll see explained in Book 7.

DD knew what was going to happen because of another teacher (one that was mad at DD at the end)

See, DD needed to go underground to find these items. Now, WHO do you think was the fake DD? And remember in the last book, there was NO body recovered when Black died--and they made a point to say this. So....

And my prediction for Book 7: Malfroy and Potter team up.

[ 07-26-2005, 05:12 AM: Message edited by: Ziroc ]

Link · 07-26-2005, 05:54 AM

Hmm, interesting theories altogether, and maybe true as well.

However:

- The Polyjuice potion was mentioned as well because of Crabbe and Goyle being disguised as little girls to alert Malfoy in the Room of Requirement. So the reason from emphasizing the potion could as well have been this.

- Why is it that Dumledore needs to go underground to find the Horcruxes? He's a potent enough wizard to go out and about on his own, he doesn't have to fear anybody. No need to use Polyjuice potion for that.

- If he did use the Polyjuice potion, and it was someone else killed on that fateful night, then it surely wouldn't be Sirius Black. Remember what happened to him in Order of the Phoenix? He disappeared through one of those portals/veils whatever they were. They couldn't recover his body through that. I admit that Sirius' death was rather all of the sudden, but I think that's intentional, because for both the reader and Harry it would be a shock. On top of that, would Dumdledore keep Sirius from Harry? And why?

Malfoy and Potter teaming up would indeed be a good option. Good thinking!

Aragorn1 · 07-26-2005, 06:55 AM

Wormtail had a sore right hand covered in a glove in the Spinners End chapter.

DD had badly burnt right hand...

ALso, why has a DADA teacher survived a year?

Not sure where I'm going with this. SOmething was definately not what it seemed with the death. Also, would DD have led Harry after a Horcrux in the way he did? Seems against his nature somehow.

Link · 07-26-2005, 07:30 AM

Would Peter have protected Harry from the Inferi?

EDIT: Couldn't it have been the other way around? Dumbledore was actually Peter Pettigrew in that particular chapter?

[ 07-26-2005, 10:10 AM: Message edited by: Link ]

Davros · 07-26-2005, 09:04 AM

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Originally posted by Aragorn1:

ALso, why has a DADA teacher survived a year?

Ummmm - what makes you believe that they will let Snape back into Hogwarts to teach DADA next year? As far as I can see that curse is still alive - its not as if the teachers have to die - just that they have to leave at the end of each year.

Szass-Tam · 07-26-2005, 10:01 AM

Any guesses at who R.A.B could be?

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07-22-2005, 12:57 PM	#33
Dron_Cah Horus - Egyptian Sky God Join Date: March 2, 2003 Location: Kentucky Age: 37 Posts: 2,637	Actually, Six, Neville is pretty much out of the running as "Chosen One." They mentioned that in book 5. Since Voldemort chose Harry, he's pretty much screwed. And I doubt she'll have Harry kill Snape, doesn't seem like her style. We'll see though.

07-26-2005, 05:54 AM	#36
Link Jack Burton Join Date: May 15, 2001 Location: The Netherlands Age: 39 Posts: 5,888	Hmm, interesting theories altogether, and maybe true as well. However: - The Polyjuice potion was mentioned as well because of Crabbe and Goyle being disguised as little girls to alert Malfoy in the Room of Requirement. So the reason from emphasizing the potion could as well have been this. - Why is it that Dumledore needs to go underground to find the Horcruxes? He's a potent enough wizard to go out and about on his own, he doesn't have to fear anybody. No need to use Polyjuice potion for that. - If he did use the Polyjuice potion, and it was someone else killed on that fateful night, then it surely wouldn't be Sirius Black. Remember what happened to him in Order of the Phoenix? He disappeared through one of those portals/veils whatever they were. They couldn't recover his body through that. I admit that Sirius' death was rather all of the sudden, but I think that's intentional, because for both the reader and Harry it would be a shock. On top of that, would Dumdledore keep Sirius from Harry? And why? Malfoy and Potter teaming up would indeed be a good option. Good thinking!

07-26-2005, 06:55 AM	#37
Aragorn1 Symbol of Cyric Join Date: July 3, 2001 Location: Cornwall England Age: 36 Posts: 1,197	Wormtail had a sore right hand covered in a glove in the Spinners End chapter. DD had badly burnt right hand... ALso, why has a DADA teacher survived a year? Not sure where I'm going with this. SOmething was definately not what it seemed with the death. Also, would DD have led Harry after a Horcrux in the way he did? Seems against his nature somehow.

07-26-2005, 07:30 AM	#38
Link Jack Burton Join Date: May 15, 2001 Location: The Netherlands Age: 39 Posts: 5,888	Would Peter have protected Harry from the Inferi? EDIT: Couldn't it have been the other way around? Dumbledore was actually Peter Pettigrew in that particular chapter? [ 07-26-2005, 10:10 AM: Message edited by: Link ]

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