Dead...Forever?

Angry Dwarf · 02-14-2002, 11:29 PM

ok i was fighting in spellhold, and Korgan and Iomen got killed. not splattered in little chunks, just killed like normal. Harper's call out case, do damage to the caster but not bring them back to life. now that i am finally out of spellhold, i took them to a temple and the temple can't bring them back to life either. raise and reserection neither one work! whats wrong? bug? i applied the newest patch about 1/2-way through my game, however i used harpers call after that and it worked fine. any ideas?

Dundee Slaytern · 02-14-2002, 11:42 PM

You are either playing on Core/Hard/Insane difficulty. There is a resurrection roll to determine whether the resurrection succeeds or not. They failed, so they stay dead.

Resurrection rolls are determined by the person's CON.

Sir Michael · 02-14-2002, 11:53 PM

That can't be it...I've played through a few times, and I've never has a problem raising or resurrecting anyone. Besides, Korgan has a 19 CON which means he has a 100% chance of resurrection survival. Imoens is 16, which gives her a 98% chance. It must be a program bug, or something else weird going on.

My first thought was for you to make sure you point to the character you are raising, and not to his stuff on the ground (a mistake I've made), but if you've tried at a temple, too, I don't know...

Morgan_Corbesant · 02-15-2002, 12:53 AM

if they splat into chunks,that means that they cannot be restored, right?

Dundee Slaytern · 02-15-2002, 01:08 AM

Except Angry Dwarf said that they did not splatter into little meaty chunks.

Mellagar · 02-15-2002, 01:11 AM

If they get splattered into little chucky bits, all you can do is scoop them up into a little baggy and carry them around to show 'this used to be a friend of mine.' (In short that means no, you can raise them if they get blown apart.)

Whailor · 02-15-2002, 04:36 AM

I play always with Core rules at least and NEVER had any problems raising anyone from dead, whatever the CON is. You have there some bug probably, so just "cheat" and raise them. Use the CTRL+R key on their face, or use Shadow Keeper, whatever you prefer. In any case they SHOULD be resurectable, either by your spells, or the wand, or definately by the church. Since none of these options work, it's some sort of bug.

And, when the char gets blown to pieces, they cannot be resurected. Neither will their portraits be seen after that. Basically if you see their portraits, it means they can be resurected.

Angry Dwarf · 02-15-2002, 10:10 AM

well i can see their portraints, what does control-R do? and does this mean that i can't reserect anyone ever again?

nathan

ULockit I Stealit · 02-15-2002, 05:05 PM

I read a posting earlier that if it shows your HP at -10 or something like that, then you have been killed by some means that cannot be ressurected. Maybe search for that.

fable · 02-15-2002, 05:18 PM

I almost always play on the Hard level, and yes, your characters can die in such a way that they cannot be revived (despite their portraits remaining in place). Happened to Anomen, most recently (and I was almost tempted to het him stay dead). There is that infamous roll every time you first try to rezz 'em. If it fails, you can forget it--unless you crank the game's difficulty level back down.

02-14-2002, 11:29 PM	#1
Angry Dwarf Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: February 2, 2002 Location: USA Posts: 38	ok i was fighting in spellhold, and Korgan and Iomen got killed. not splattered in little chunks, just killed like normal. Harper's call out case, do damage to the caster but not bring them back to life. now that i am finally out of spellhold, i took them to a temple and the temple can't bring them back to life either. raise and reserection neither one work! whats wrong? bug? i applied the newest patch about 1/2-way through my game, however i used harpers call after that and it worked fine. any ideas? __________________ \"Unix is simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity.\"-DR

02-14-2002, 11:53 PM	#3
Sir Michael Manshoon Join Date: October 2, 2001 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA Age: 57 Posts: 202	That can't be it...I've played through a few times, and I've never has a problem raising or resurrecting anyone. Besides, Korgan has a 19 CON which means he has a 100% chance of resurrection survival. Imoens is 16, which gives her a 98% chance. It must be a program bug, or something else weird going on. My first thought was for you to make sure you point to the character you are raising, and not to his stuff on the ground (a mistake I've made), but if you've tried at a temple, too, I don't know... __________________ \"You see things; and you say \'Why?\' But I dream things that never were; and I say \'Why not?\'\"<br />-George Bernard Shaw<br /><br />\"Men take only their needs into consideration never their abilities.\"<br />-Napoleon Bonaparte

02-15-2002, 12:53 AM	#4
Morgan_Corbesant Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 19, 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 45 Posts: 1,224	if they splat into chunks,that means that they cannot be restored, right? __________________ Morgan Corbesant, Elven BladeSinger, Captain of the army of the Seldarine<br /><br /> [img]\"http://www.rleeermey.com/images/linkbanners/usmcredwhiteblue.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br />Protector of Elves<br />Slayer of Orcs<br /><br />ALL YOUR BASE, ARE BELONG TO US!!!<br />I DON\'T FIGHT FOR HONOR, I FIGHT TO WIN!<br />\"One who is a samurai must before all things keep constantly in mind, by day and by night...the fact that he has to die\". <br />-Daidoji Yuzan-<br />16th Century

02-15-2002, 04:36 AM	#7
Whailor Avatar Join Date: May 16, 2001 Location: Estonia Posts: 532	I play always with Core rules at least and NEVER had any problems raising anyone from dead, whatever the CON is. You have there some bug probably, so just "cheat" and raise them. Use the CTRL+R key on their face, or use Shadow Keeper, whatever you prefer. In any case they SHOULD be resurectable, either by your spells, or the wand, or definately by the church. Since none of these options work, it's some sort of bug. And, when the char gets blown to pieces, they cannot be resurected. Neither will their portraits be seen after that. Basically if you see their portraits, it means they can be resurected. __________________

02-15-2002, 10:10 AM	#8
Angry Dwarf Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: February 2, 2002 Location: USA Posts: 38	well i can see their portraints, what does control-R do? and does this mean that i can't reserect anyone ever again? nathan __________________ \"Unix is simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity.\"-DR

02-14-2002, 11:42 PM	#2
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 11,063	You are either playing on Core/Hard/Insane difficulty. There is a resurrection roll to determine whether the resurrection succeeds or not. They failed, so they stay dead. Resurrection rolls are determined by the person's CON.

02-15-2002, 01:08 AM	#5
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 11,063	Except Angry Dwarf said that they did not splatter into little meaty chunks.

02-15-2002, 01:11 AM	#6
Mellagar Avatar Join Date: June 16, 2001 Location: Far from where I was, nearer where I wish. Age: 41 Posts: 563	If they get splattered into little chucky bits, all you can do is scoop them up into a little baggy and carry them around to show 'this used to be a friend of mine.' (In short that means no, you can raise them if they get blown apart.)

02-15-2002, 05:05 PM	#9
ULockit I Stealit The Magister Join Date: December 10, 2001 Location: Vancouver, BC aka Land of Rain Posts: 140	I read a posting earlier that if it shows your HP at -10 or something like that, then you have been killed by some means that cannot be ressurected. Maybe search for that. __________________ \"Ahh, the sweet feel of something somebody else paid for.\"<p>:skeleton1:<br />ULockit I Stealit<br />Fighter/Theif and Master of Own Domain

02-15-2002, 05:18 PM	#10
fable Quintesson Join Date: March 17, 2001 Location: Where I am. Posts: 1,089	I almost always play on the Hard level, and yes, your characters can die in such a way that they cannot be revived (despite their portraits remaining in place). Happened to Anomen, most recently (and I was almost tempted to het him stay dead). There is that infamous roll every time you first try to rezz 'em. If it fails, you can forget it--unless you crank the game's difficulty level back down.

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