gender items

armakh · 04-17-2002, 02:07 PM

I was really disappointed as I was making my way through this game that all of the gender-specific items were female, but now I've finally found one that was male only. I killed Chief Gari, just to see what he had, and each time I killed him I got the chieftain's sceptre, which is male only. So I'm somewhat pacified. But I got to thinking...I wish that since valks can only be female, it's too bad that lords aren't male-only. They are very similar classes with the emphasis on melee skills and priest magic. Oh well...just something to comment on.

Charmy · 04-17-2002, 02:45 PM

Wizardry has always been sexist towards Females =) Tons of Female-Only items, and female bonuses, but little-to-nothing for the guys. In Wizardry 7 the only males you should make are fighter-type males, because of their boost to Strength, but for all other classes, the boost to Personality that females get is much more useful. And if you want a fighter female, no problem! Just roll up a Valkyrie.

And the girls don't have to deal with unpleasant things like Al-Sedexus.. *shudders*

Ah well, I guess its compensating for how things were/are in RL.

Nightowl2 · 04-17-2002, 08:34 PM

Well, players with all-female parties DO have to "deal with Al-Sedexus", y'know

Also, there is a random item called "cameo locket" that shows up now and then, which is a male-only item (forgot what it does, though).

Could never figure out why they did that "gender-only" stuff in Wizardry. Maybe they figure most players will have stag groups?

Nightowl2

otter · 04-18-2002, 02:06 AM

also, to take full advantage of the class-changing system, females worked better, because after the first change, you revert to male stats for your race, but you keep the extra Karma point.

Niob · 04-18-2002, 08:36 AM

cameo locket is great
ac + 4, hp-regeneration +1
+15 Vitality and 30 % Divine resistance
perfect for a fairy-bishop ..you'll get hp and a good AC

NCSUWufPak · 04-18-2002, 01:49 PM

I too am annoyed by the female-only items and bonuses. Of course, being a men's rights advocate, I of course would be annoyed by that. [img]smile.gif[/img] I think that some class like the Bishop or Lord or something should be male-only.

MasterPooBaa · 04-18-2002, 09:37 PM

or have two sex defined magic casting classes...
mage for males, sorceress for females, with a number of unique spells & items for each.

Barenziahlover · 04-20-2002, 07:04 AM

They where alway like this as I remember playing Wizardry 1 in 1979 or
1980. You don't see men wearing bras if they are normal man.

Nightowl2 · 04-20-2002, 01:06 PM

Well, originally the Lord class was male-only, and the Valk was female-only to balance that out. Dunno why they changed it here so you could have a female Lord. Doesn't make sense to me.

My own feeling, though, is that the fewer gender-related classes, the better.

Nightowl2

04-17-2002, 02:07 PM	#1
armakh Manshoon Join Date: February 24, 2002 Location: Sidney, Nebraska Posts: 198	I was really disappointed as I was making my way through this game that all of the gender-specific items were female, but now I've finally found one that was male only. I killed Chief Gari, just to see what he had, and each time I killed him I got the chieftain's sceptre, which is male only. So I'm somewhat pacified. But I got to thinking...I wish that since valks can only be female, it's too bad that lords aren't male-only. They are very similar classes with the emphasis on melee skills and priest magic. Oh well...just something to comment on. __________________ Life is too serious to be taken seriously.

04-18-2002, 01:49 PM	#6
NCSUWufPak Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: February 15, 2002 Location: Athens, GA Age: 44 Posts: 46	I too am annoyed by the female-only items and bonuses. Of course, being a men's rights advocate, I of course would be annoyed by that. [img]smile.gif[/img] I think that some class like the Bishop or Lord or something should be male-only. __________________ \"And remember, my sentimental friend, that a heart is not judged by how much you love, but by how much you are loved by others.\" - The Great and Powerful Wizard of Oz

04-18-2002, 09:37 PM	#7
MasterPooBaa Zhentarim Guard Join Date: April 15, 2002 Location: OZ! Age: 48 Posts: 332	or have two sex defined magic casting classes... mage for males, sorceress for females, with a number of unique spells & items for each. __________________ Today is a good day for SOMEONE ELSE to die!!!!!

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04-17-2002, 02:45 PM	#2
Charmy Dungeon Master Join Date: March 23, 2002 Location: Canada Age: 39 Posts: 81	Wizardry has always been sexist towards Females =) Tons of Female-Only items, and female bonuses, but little-to-nothing for the guys. In Wizardry 7 the only males you should make are fighter-type males, because of their boost to Strength, but for all other classes, the boost to Personality that females get is much more useful. And if you want a fighter female, no problem! Just roll up a Valkyrie. And the girls don't have to deal with unpleasant things like Al-Sedexus.. shudders Ah well, I guess its compensating for how things were/are in RL.

04-17-2002, 08:34 PM	#3
Nightowl2 Galvatron Join Date: December 11, 2001 Location: Plateau of Leng Age: 46 Posts: 2,190	Well, players with all-female parties DO have to "deal with Al-Sedexus", y'know Also, there is a random item called "cameo locket" that shows up now and then, which is a male-only item (forgot what it does, though). Could never figure out why they did that "gender-only" stuff in Wizardry. Maybe they figure most players will have stag groups? Nightowl2

04-18-2002, 02:06 AM	#4
otter Elminster Join Date: March 26, 2002 Location: portland or Posts: 434	also, to take full advantage of the class-changing system, females worked better, because after the first change, you revert to male stats for your race, but you keep the extra Karma point.

04-18-2002, 08:36 AM	#5
Niob The Magister Join Date: February 4, 2002 Location: Rat hole #152 Posts: 137	cameo locket is great ac + 4, hp-regeneration +1 +15 Vitality and 30 % Divine resistance perfect for a fairy-bishop ..you'll get hp and a good AC

04-20-2002, 07:04 AM	#8
Barenziahlover Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: April 15, 2002 Location: El Paso, Texas Age: 73 Posts: 17	They where alway like this as I remember playing Wizardry 1 in 1979 or 1980. You don't see men wearing bras if they are normal man.

04-20-2002, 01:06 PM	#9
Nightowl2 Galvatron Join Date: December 11, 2001 Location: Plateau of Leng Age: 46 Posts: 2,190	Well, originally the Lord class was male-only, and the Valk was female-only to balance that out. Dunno why they changed it here so you could have a female Lord. Doesn't make sense to me. My own feeling, though, is that the fewer gender-related classes, the better. Nightowl2

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