De Arnise Keep Q - stuck

B.E. Meathead · 07-10-2002, 11:43 AM

Hey all, new to the boards, relatively new to D&D as well. Anyhow. I'm stuck fighting the Yuan-Ti Mage inside the second floor of the D'Arnise Keep. What are the best strategies to defeat this thing? The main problem seems to be that it casts domination or chaos spells on my whole party, with maybe one or two unaffected by it. Dispel magic and remove magic don't seem to do anything ... My primary mage, at this point, is Aerie, btw. I've also got Nalia (duh), Jaheira, Minsc, and Yoshimo. My character is a straight-up fighter, so he basically just whacks the trolls. lol Sorry for the noob q's. Thanks for the help, all.

Meathead

Zarr · 07-10-2002, 11:47 AM

Use the fifth level cleric/druid spell chaotic commands to negate the effects of spells like chaos. Also hit him with a breach spell to remove his stoneskin. Then hack away. It shouldn't be to much of a problem if your fighter(s) are protected by chaotic commands.

Zarr · 07-10-2002, 11:49 AM

Oh and I forgot to say welcome to Ironworks forum!

Dundee Slaytern · 07-10-2002, 12:28 PM

Welcome to the Ironworks Forums.

In response to your question, a quick query. What are the levels of your party member?

In any case, here is a tip. Use summons to enter the room first and take the initial brunt of the attack. The Yuan-Ti Mage will waste its spells on the summons, enabling you to charge in later without fear.

Sazerac · 07-10-2002, 07:08 PM

Here's another tip: Enter from the rear and surprise-attack him.

You can do this from the roof of De'Arnise. It'll place your party directly behind him; enough for your mages to get off a magic missile and your fighter to give him a whack before he fires off his contingency.

Also: have your mages memorize "Breach", "Spell Thrust", "Remove Magic", and/or "Secret Word" to bring down his defenses while your fighters whale on him.

Using this strategy, I'm generally able to pull him down without a hitch. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Cheers,
-Sazerac

Indemaijinj · 07-11-2002, 01:27 PM

My solution: Summoned monsters. Enter using the left door. Use a summoned monster to draw the fission troll out so you don't have to face both at once. Use summoned monster to tank him so they draw his nasty confusion spells.

LennonCook · 07-11-2002, 10:42 PM

Jaheira has a nice little spell called "Insect Plague"... if you have level 5 spells with her yet, memorise at least one Insect Plague, and fire it at the Yuan-ti as soon as he comes into sight- this tactic works wonders against every enemy you fight who uses spells (which is ALOT) [img]smile.gif[/img]

B.E. Meathead · 07-12-2002, 12:26 AM

Thanks for all the advice (and the welcome's). Haven't had a chance to get back to the game yet, but I doubt I'll have problems. Thanks all.

Meathead

Harkoliar · 07-12-2002, 01:48 AM

well, you can try domintaing your dominated party member [img]smile.gif[/img] .. thats what i did before heh.

syrneia · 07-12-2002, 01:47 PM

i've always found with any spellcasting fight -
disrupt the mage!!!!
throw everything you can at him/her/it to disrupt their spellcasting
missiles from fast launchers {crossbow of speed, tuigan's bow etc} will take down his stoneskin {a magic missile or two are excellent for this too}, or simply throw your character most proficient in weapon melee right at him {defended by chaotic commands if you so wish} - though this spell does not last very long - you can also charm or reverse dominate afflicted characters
everyone's responses are good advice...though some perhaps a little more involved than need be
there are also a few items/weapons that prevent charm, fear, confusion etc when equipped...maybe go through your inventory and see if you have any of these...

[ 07-12-2002, 05:03 PM: Message edited by: syrneia ]

07-10-2002, 11:43 AM	#1
B.E. Meathead Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: July 9, 2002 Location: United States Posts: 6	Hey all, new to the boards, relatively new to D&D as well. Anyhow. I'm stuck fighting the Yuan-Ti Mage inside the second floor of the D'Arnise Keep. What are the best strategies to defeat this thing? The main problem seems to be that it casts domination or chaos spells on my whole party, with maybe one or two unaffected by it. Dispel magic and remove magic don't seem to do anything ... My primary mage, at this point, is Aerie, btw. I've also got Nalia (duh), Jaheira, Minsc, and Yoshimo. My character is a straight-up fighter, so he basically just whacks the trolls. lol Sorry for the noob q's. Thanks for the help, all. Meathead __________________ Stamped and Certified: 100% Grade A Mad Cow Beef

07-10-2002, 11:47 AM	#2
Zarr Symbol of Cyric Join Date: June 19, 2002 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 40 Posts: 1,330	Use the fifth level cleric/druid spell chaotic commands to negate the effects of spells like chaos. Also hit him with a breach spell to remove his stoneskin. Then hack away. It shouldn't be to much of a problem if your fighter(s) are protected by chaotic commands. __________________ Minsc - \"Don\'t ask questions better left to aged sages\"<br /><br />\"You must gather your party before venturing forth\". BANG shoots him dead

07-10-2002, 11:49 AM	#3
Zarr Symbol of Cyric Join Date: June 19, 2002 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 40 Posts: 1,330	Oh and I forgot to say welcome to Ironworks forum! __________________ Minsc - \"Don\'t ask questions better left to aged sages\"<br /><br />\"You must gather your party before venturing forth\". BANG shoots him dead

07-10-2002, 07:08 PM	#5
Sazerac Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Monroe, LA Age: 60 Posts: 7,387	Here's another tip: Enter from the rear and surprise-attack him. You can do this from the roof of De'Arnise. It'll place your party directly behind him; enough for your mages to get off a magic missile and your fighter to give him a whack before he fires off his contingency. Also: have your mages memorize "Breach", "Spell Thrust", "Remove Magic", and/or "Secret Word" to bring down his defenses while your fighters whale on him. Using this strategy, I'm generally able to pull him down without a hitch. [img]smile.gif[/img] Cheers, -Sazerac __________________ "And all my days are trances, and all my nightly dreams, Are where thy grey eye glances, and where thy footstep gleams, In what ethereal dances, by what eternal streams..."

07-11-2002, 01:27 PM	#6
Indemaijinj Symbol of Cyric Join Date: June 15, 2002 Location: Denmark Age: 43 Posts: 1,163	My solution: Summoned monsters. Enter using the left door. Use a summoned monster to draw the fission troll out so you don't have to face both at once. Use summoned monster to tank him so they draw his nasty confusion spells. __________________ The Bleak Caballero<br /><br />Proud and original member (and secret admirer) of the Pro-Mazzy movement.

07-10-2002, 12:28 PM	#4
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 11,063	Welcome to the Ironworks Forums. In response to your question, a quick query. What are the levels of your party member? In any case, here is a tip. Use summons to enter the room first and take the initial brunt of the attack. The Yuan-Ti Mage will waste its spells on the summons, enabling you to charge in later without fear.

07-11-2002, 10:42 PM	#7
LennonCook Jack Burton Join Date: November 10, 2001 Location: Bathurst & Orange, in constant flux Age: 37 Posts: 5,452	Jaheira has a nice little spell called "Insect Plague"... if you have level 5 spells with her yet, memorise at least one Insect Plague, and fire it at the Yuan-ti as soon as he comes into sight- this tactic works wonders against every enemy you fight who uses spells (which is ALOT) [img]smile.gif[/img]

07-12-2002, 12:26 AM	#8
B.E. Meathead Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: July 9, 2002 Location: United States Posts: 6	Thanks for all the advice (and the welcome's). Haven't had a chance to get back to the game yet, but I doubt I'll have problems. Thanks all. Meathead __________________ Stamped and Certified: 100% Grade A Mad Cow Beef

07-12-2002, 01:48 AM	#9
Harkoliar Jack Burton Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Philippines, but now Harbor City Sydney Age: 41 Posts: 5,556	well, you can try domintaing your dominated party member [img]smile.gif[/img] .. thats what i did before heh. __________________ Catch me if you can..

07-12-2002, 01:47 PM	#10
syrneia Dungeon Master Join Date: May 29, 2002 Location: canada Posts: 71	i've always found with any spellcasting fight - disrupt the mage!!!! throw everything you can at him/her/it to disrupt their spellcasting missiles from fast launchers {crossbow of speed, tuigan's bow etc} will take down his stoneskin {a magic missile or two are excellent for this too}, or simply throw your character most proficient in weapon melee right at him {defended by chaotic commands if you so wish} - though this spell does not last very long - you can also charm or reverse dominate afflicted characters everyone's responses are good advice...though some perhaps a little more involved than need be there are also a few items/weapons that prevent charm, fear, confusion etc when equipped...maybe go through your inventory and see if you have any of these... [ 07-12-2002, 05:03 PM: Message edited by: syrneia ]

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