This is too good not to share, Hollywood Halfwits

[John D Harris]

Originally posted by Timber Loftis: I think celebrity opinions on politics are about as relevant as Dan Quayle's opinion on Murphy Brown.

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(Laughing So Damn Hard I Projectile Spit Coke All Over My Computer Screen)

[John D Harris]

Originally posted by Ronn_Bman: I like Jeanne Garofalo even if I don't share her views. When I've seen her she seemed intelligent and had a well balanced argument. I'm not doubting that she could get upset, but if she can keep her cool while being interviewed on the Fox news network, she's doing a pretty good job.

Where you watching the same show as I was? If she kept her cool you can spank my butt and paint it purple

[Cerek the Barbaric]

Darvos - Not trying to pick on you, my friend...just adding a bit to what Iron Ranger and the esteemed Southern Gentlemen Mr. Harris had to say.

Hollywood actors and actresses have literally been "lashing out" at President Bush since the day of the election. During the wait for the Florida Recount, Alec Baldwin boldly proclaimed he would move out of the country if George Bush were declared the winner (he declined to accept his own offer).

After 9/11, the number of "stars" coming out to show support for the victims was tremendous. Two huge, national benefits were held and the celebrities even "manned the phone lines" themselves to accept contributions. One of these events was organized primarily by George Clooney, and he "humbly" accepted the praise and attention for bringing so many celebrities together in an effort to "heal the nation". Then...a few months later....it was discovered that the bulk of the money raised by his benefit NEVER made it to the families of the victims. Instead, most of it went to the employees (and administrators) of the group set up to distribute the funds.

Bill O'Reilly (a right wing host of a political TV show) discovered this and publicly questioned Clooney's obligation to ensure the money he helped raised actually went to the people it was intended for. George Clooney hates Bill O'Reilly with a deep passion to this day for daring to "question his character". All Bill said was "Hey, YOU were perfectly happy to take responsibility for setting this whole thing up (and rightly so). But don't you think you also have an obligation to follow-through and make sure the money is distributed to those it was intended for.?" Clooney, for his part, made several "retaliatory statements" before finally going quiet on the whole subject.

It's just like the others said...celebrities have a right to voice their opinion. However, their opinion is no better nor worse than anybody elses... but THEY don't like to be reminded of that...and they take extreme offense when anybody has the audacity to QUESTION or DISAGREE with their values.

Sheryl Crow and many other celebs made public statements against CBS(?) because the network asked them to keep the "anti-war sentiment" to a minimum. They are acting like it's an infringement on their First Amendment Rights. But CBS realized something the celebs didn't....that the MAJORITY of American voter (and TV VIEWERS) DISAGREE with them.

Hollywood has not been "in touch with reality" for many, many years now..yet they feel THEY are the ones who are right and the rest of the country is wrong. They have a right to their opinion...but the American public also has a right to tell them they are wrong.

[johnny]

Who's Darvos ?

[Iron_Ranger]

Originally posted by Cerek the Barbaric: Bill O'Reilly (a right wing host of a political TV show)

Wonderful post Cerek..Expect this part

I am telling you people, he is NOT right wing. He has right wing views, and is pretty passtionate about them, but he also has left wing views, and he also pastionate about those also.

I know you didnt do this, but, I really hate when O'Reilly gets grouped with Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.

I think he maybe leans to the right, but certaintly wouldnt be a right winger. But like I said, nice post. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Attalus]

I agree, IR. Bill O'Reilly is NOT a respected name among my friends. But, if I had the choice to save him or Alec Baldwin, I would not hesitate. (*has to shut up about George Clooney, since an extremely important member of his household likes the left wing son of a b...*) Post closed by Authority.

[Chewbacca]

If a celebrity having their point of veiw, then fine, what is wrong with that? When you are a public person you have the opportunity to share your views no matter how left or right they may be. The celebrities are individuals after all, though some people like to lump people together in neat little stereotypes.

All this web-site does is attack, mock, and critisize anyone with a different point of view much like any person or celebrity would do when confronted with an opposing view. In my opinion, it lacks taste almost as much as it does objectivity.

[ 02-28-2003, 12:01 AM: Message edited by: Chewbacca ]

[Cerek the Barbaric]

Originally posted by Iron_Ranger: Quote: Originally posted by Cerek the Barbaric: Bill O'Reilly (a right wing host of a political TV show)

Wonderful post Cerek..Expect this part

I am telling you people, he is NOT right wing. He has right wing views, and is pretty passtionate about them, but he also has left wing views, and he also pastionate about those also.

I know you didnt do this, but, I really hate when O'Reilly gets grouped with Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.

I think he maybe leans to the right, but certaintly wouldnt be a right winger. But like I said, nice post. [img]smile.gif[/img] [/QUOTE]Thanks for correcting that, Iron Ranger. I really hadn't heard much about O'Reilly until the whole affair with George Clooney. I don't watch his show...in fact I don't watch TV very much at ALL anymore. My kids usually dictate the channel, and there aren't many current events discussed on Teamo Supremo.

My comments were based on what little I had seen of O'Reilly (and I agreed with what I heard him say). At first, I thought he was some kind of jerk who went out of his way to pick on celebrities...that's because the TODAY show had tried to "book him" to tell his side of the story (George Clooney had already been on a day or two before to give his), but they had been some glitch in the negotiations. O'Reilly felt like TODAY wasn't really going to give him a fair chance to say his piece, so he declined...which REALLY hacked the TODAY show people off. Finally, O'Reilly had his publicist go on, and Matt Lauer was uncharacteristically spiteful towards him. He made it a point to mention that O'Reilly only agreed to allow his publicist to attend AFTER the TODAY show reluctantly agreed to mention his new book. Matt basically kept insidiously insinuating that they had to "bribe" O'Reilly to come on the show. The publicist calmly pointed out that this was a standard agreement for ANY celebrity coming on the TODAY show - an obligatory "plug" for the celeb's new movie or book was expected in order for them to appear.

Anyway, they did their best to paint O'Reilly as extreme as Rush and Co. because he had dared to turn THEM down to.

johnny - I can't BELIEVE I misspelled Davros! [img]graemlins/wow.gif[/img] I always make it a point to spell a member's ID correctly. Out of all the possible ID's to misspell, to make a mistake on one of the simplest. [img]graemlins/doh.gif[/img] {hangs head in shame}

[Iron_Ranger]

Its no biggie Cerek. I dont really see it too much, just in left orentied papers and stuff, if anyone is sitting here with nothing to do on weekday nights around 7 PM CST tune in to Fox News, its a good show .

Woah! I have always spelled Davros Darvos! Never noticed before! Sorry bout that Davros..I am Lysdexius

[Davros]

Originally posted by Cerek the Barbaric: Darvos - Not trying to pick on you, my friend...just adding a bit to what Iron Ranger and the esteemed Southern Gentlemen Mr. Harris had to say. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Mind if I answer for Darvos - I haven't seen him much about lately [img]smile.gif[/img] . Now of course I know you are not picking on me Cerek - you are simply exerising your rights under the first amendment (I think it's the first - one of them anyway, but then again I wasn't bought up having to learn about the American Constitution so if it is a different number I am sure you will forgive me) regarding freedom of expression. By the way - I didn't see anything from that esteemed Southern Gentleman that has disputing what I was saying? - I thought JD was talking about some actress or singer, who, honestly, I do not know or have ever heard of - I must lead a sheltered existance ----------------------------------------------------------------- I CUT SOME STUFF THAT I CAN'T COMMENT ON BECAUSE I NEVER WITNESSED OR LIVED THROUGH, MAKING IT INAPPROPRIATE FOR ME TO RESPOND TO. ----------------------------------------------------------------- It's just like the others said...celebrities have a right to voice their opinion. However, their opinion is no better nor worse than anybody elses... but THEY don't like to be reminded of that...and they take extreme offense when anybody has the audacity to QUESTION or DISAGREE with their values. ----------------------------------------------------------------- I have agreed with much of this point already - right to express, no better than anyone elses - yup. Take offense at disagreement - that is just their big ego's getting in the way - but does it make one "Un-American". ----------------------------------------------------------------- What truly makes some-one Un-American? If I say I hate apple pie - is that being Un-American - is it a sign of inexcusable disrespect to the general populace of this, an American based forum? Personally I think apple pie is OK, but Blueberry is better [img]smile.gif[/img] - what does that say? Is disagreeing with the majority of the population Un-American? ----------------------------------------------------------------- Sheryl Crow and many other celebs made public statements against CBS(?) because the network asked them to keep the "anti-war sentiment" to a minimum. They are acting like it's an infringement on their First Amendment Rights. But CBS realized something the celebs didn't....that the MAJORITY of American voter (and TV VIEWERS) DISAGREE with them. ----------------------------------------------------------------- OK - an example of the fact that I should completely read a post before I start answering - so it is the 1st amendment - my apologies for the waffle of confusion in my 1st paragraph. So CBS set themselves up as a censor of what was right and wrong - and you think that is a good thing? Are 1st amendment rights important and worth fighting for or not? Isn't one of the justifications that I have heard from about this upcoming war is that it will restore the sort of freedom of expression rights that the oppressed Iraqii population 's currently don't enjoy? If CBS wanted to have Cheryl Crow on to display her musical talents, are they entitled to muzzle her with this sort of demand? ------------------------------------------------------------------ Hollywood has not been "in touch with reality" for many, many years now..yet they feel THEY are the ones who are right and the rest of the country is wrong. They have a right to their opinion...but the American public also has a right to tell them they are wrong.

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Basically agree with this paragraph, but the comment not in touch is better represented by "tenuously in touch" [img]smile.gif[/img] . Totally agree with your summing up sentence Cerek, but it doesn't tell the whole story. The American public has a right to disagree, and a right to believe they (Hollywood) are wrong. But right or wrong is a matter of perspective, and my question remains "Why does having the opposite opinion make one Un-American?". It seems to me that this is an epiphet that is too readily bandied about, and often for little or no reason.

Thanks for listening [img]smile.gif[/img]