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Old 06-01-2006, 03:09 AM   #1
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Not if it uses Starforce!

This might be the end for Starforce it seems.......
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Old 06-01-2006, 06:32 AM   #2
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The rumours about that have been going around for quite some time. A friend of mine that works as a college administrator downloaded the last available Vista beta, and I already talked him into running some tests with me. Guess it's confirmed now, so I don't have to run those. Probably still gonna do it
One thing we should note, however, about Vista and old games(younger than DX9c): they'll be running in some kind of simulated support mode. Apparently, DX10 was built from ground up(I know, sounds incredible for Micro$oft to do that, but they did), and has little support for anything previous. So basically, newer games will run better than the older games.
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Old 06-01-2006, 07:00 AM   #3
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Just tried it myself and yep, couldn't get Splinter Cell or Trackmania to work
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Old 06-01-2006, 07:20 AM   #4
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I believe that there will be two concurrent versions of DX10 - games developers will have to develop for them both. One will have Vista compatibility and one won't.

Bozos, has your friend mentioned any performance losses? With such hefty minimum requirements just for running the OS, what kind of impact does it have on games?
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Old 06-01-2006, 07:48 AM   #5
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Absolutly none.... Well, not much, Vista is designed to run in a way where it technically disables itself when you run 3D apps.

What do you mean by two versions of DX10 Shamrock?
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Old 06-01-2006, 09:25 AM   #6
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That's a rumour, but I don't think it'll really happen.
He says that Vista runs nicely, the 3D vision thing is kinda cool, but he complains that it's too pretty and graphical(he's been introduced to Linux recently [img]smile.gif[/img] ). I don't think he tried to run a game on it yet, that's what I'm talking him onto.
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Old 06-01-2006, 09:36 AM   #7
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Ah, neat trick!

I went to look up my source for you Hive and it appears to have vanished with a lot of email in the *ahem* user error earlier this year.

As I prefer to game in Linux, I subscribe to the Transgaming newsletter and they had a very interesting discussion about DX10 and what it means. They were very optimistic about the re-write but said that there would be a legacy version of DX10 for people not using Vista, alongside the incompatible DX10 for Vista users.

Their view was basically that it's great that DX gets a much-needed rewrite, but it's going to be a big burden on games developers to produce games for two versions at once.

I can't find back-copies of newsletters on their website unfortunately. A google isn't conclusive either, with some links suggesting that this was MS' original plan but they've decided to not release DX10 for XP anymore.

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