Communist Manifesto

Ronn_Bman · 02-26-2002, 09:55 AM

This one's for Barry The Sprout

From Chase's calendar of events:

Communist Manifesto
February 26, 1848

Written by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels on the eve of the revolutions of 1848, the Manifesto provided ideas for socialist and communist movements.

BTW, I don't want anyone to think my posting of this is a crack of any kind. It is not. I came across it this morning at the station and thought he might find this historical note interesting. (Isn't it a shame the disclaimer is almost as long as the post [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] )

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Donut · 02-26-2002, 10:29 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Ronn_Bman:
This one's for Barry The Sprout

From Chase's calendar of events:

Communist Manifesto
February 26, 1848

Written by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels on the eve of the revolutions of 1848, the Manifesto provided ideas for socialist and communist movements.

BTW, I don't want anyone to think my posting of this is a crack, joke, or a slam against Barry. It is not. I came across it this morning at the station and thought he might find this historical note interesting. (Isn't it a shame the disclaimer is longer than the ost [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] )

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Barry probably knows this. The Communist manifesto was written by Marx and Engles in a room over the Red Lion pub in St John's Street in Islington, London. This would be of little importance if it wasn't for the fact that Barry lives only a few hundred yards away from it! I spent many years drinking in the downstairs bar! I didn't do much political writing! The pub doesn't exist anymore - I think it's a japanese restaurant now.

Janus · 02-26-2002, 01:40 PM

Death to capitolism!

Ronn_Bman · 02-26-2002, 01:46 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Donut:

Barry probably knows this. The Communist manifesto was written by Marx and Engles in a room over the Red Lion pub in St John's Street in Islington, London. This would be of little importance if it wasn't for the fact that Barry lives only a few hundred yards away from it! I spent many years drinking in the downstairs bar! I didn't do much political writing! The pub doesn't exist anymore - I think it's a japanese restaurant now.

Yeah, I'm sure that one sentance description from Chase's does no justice to Barry's knowledge of the document, but sometimes the anniversary of historical events get over-looked, so I thought I'd mention it. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Very cool info about his location in relation to this, and your visit to the bar! I'm sure creating any historic document there won't be looked on quite the same in the future. Politics over sushi anyone?

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Galadria · 02-26-2002, 01:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Janus:
Death to capitolism!

LOL, I don't think that Capitalism has much to worry about, if its enemies can't even spell it right.

02-26-2002, 02:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Galadria:

LOL, I don't think that Capitalism has much to worry about, if its enemies can't even spell it right.

Hey!! Maybe he just hates domed buildings

Evil Al · 02-26-2002, 03:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Janus:
Death to capitolism!

This statement is extremely funny to me because communist countries are encouraging business to move in. They have seen that a country can't make money without and businesses that don't (make money).
Its all fine-having factories that make a loss each year just to keep people in work but it doesn't work if all your factories do that.
I think Janus has the wrong idea about what communism really is, but then again not many people do.

khazadman · 02-26-2002, 04:18 PM

the workers did throw off their chains!why do you think communism collapsed in all but,what,three countries?and two of these are begging foreign companies to let them make their toys.capitolism rocks!capitolism beats standing in line all day for sand,i mean toilet,paper.cause that is basically why it collapsed.they wanted political and ECONOMIC freedom.
so marx wrote that trash over a pub?that explains it.
marx:hey engels,i got one.hic.religion is the opiate of the masses.
engels:thats a crock of s**t!hee hee.lets put it in.those idiots will buy it.

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CAPITOLISM ROCKS!

Talthyr Malkaviel · 02-26-2002, 04:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by khazadman:
the workers did throw off their chains!why do you think communism collapsed in all but,what,three countries?and two of these are begging foreign companies to let them make their toys.capitolism rocks!capitolism beats standing in line all day for sand,i mean toilet,paper.cause that is basically why it collapsed.they wanted political and ECONOMIC freedom.
so marx wrote that trash over a pub?that explains it.
marx:hey engels,i got one.hic.religion is the opiate of the masses.
engels:thats a crock of s**t!hee hee.lets put it in.those idiots will buy it.

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CAPITOLISM ROCKS!

Maybe you didn't stop to think that Communism was a good theory, but the way it was carried out was wrong.
If it had been done differently, say without the politicians having obscene amounts of money compared to normal people and there wasn't as much corruption, they wouldn't be in the huge debts and problems they are now.
Also, I think your last statement is offensive to people who think Marx's ideas are good.

02-26-2002, 04:53 PM

You know, neither Sovjet, China, Cuba and so further did/does have pure marxistic comunism. In sovjet it was first leninism, followed by stalinism, which also cuba is is using. in china, maoism reigns.

Khazadman, have you even read it? Otherwise, you can't really say it is crap.

The fact that people in comunistic countrys suffer isn't that they live in a communism, it is because they are ruled by a dictator.
Hitler and die Nationalsocialistiche Deutshe Arbeiterpartei (spl?) was to the right, as was Mussolini.
The russian Tsar who was overthrowned by the boljeviks, was one of the most hated men in europe at that time. His relative, the king/ruler of england didn't even dare to let him into his country when the Tsar noticed that his life was in danger, because he feared riots in his own country then. The Tsar was conservative, to the right. His people suffered as much as they did under a communistic goverment to the left.

I don't think that communism is bad. But I also think capitalism is good. A mix of both is the best, in my belives.

02-26-2002, 09:55 AM	#1
Ronn_Bman Zartan Join Date: March 11, 2001 Location: North Carolina USA Age: 57 Posts: 5,177	This one's for Barry The Sprout From Chase's calendar of events: Communist Manifesto February 26, 1848 Written by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels on the eve of the revolutions of 1848, the Manifesto provided ideas for socialist and communist movements. BTW, I don't want anyone to think my posting of this is a crack of any kind. It is not. I came across it this morning at the station and thought he might find this historical note interesting. (Isn't it a shame the disclaimer is almost as long as the post [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] ) [img]graemlins/cheers.gif[/img] [ 02-26-2002: Message edited by: Ronn_Bman ] __________________ [img]\"http://home.carolina.rr.com/orthanc/pics/Spinning%20Hammer%20Sig%20Pic.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

02-26-2002, 10:29 AM	#2
Donut Jack Burton Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Airstrip One Age: 40 Posts: 5,571	quote: Originally posted by Ronn_Bman: This one's for Barry The Sprout From Chase's calendar of events: Communist Manifesto February 26, 1848 Written by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels on the eve of the revolutions of 1848, the Manifesto provided ideas for socialist and communist movements. BTW, I don't want anyone to think my posting of this is a crack, joke, or a slam against Barry. It is not. I came across it this morning at the station and thought he might find this historical note interesting. (Isn't it a shame the disclaimer is longer than the ost [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] ) [img]graemlins/cheers.gif[/img] Barry probably knows this. The Communist manifesto was written by Marx and Engles in a room over the Red Lion pub in St John's Street in Islington, London. This would be of little importance if it wasn't for the fact that Barry lives only a few hundred yards away from it! I spent many years drinking in the downstairs bar! I didn't do much political writing! The pub doesn't exist anymore - I think it's a japanese restaurant now. __________________ [img]\"http://www.wheatsheaf.freeserve.co.uk/roastspurs.gif\" alt=\" - \" /> <br />Proud member of the Axis of Upheaval<br />Official Titterer of the Laughing Hyenas<br />Josiah Bartlet - the best President the US never had.<br />The 1st D in the D & D Show

02-26-2002, 01:40 PM	#3
Janus Dungeon Master Join Date: November 21, 2001 Location: Justicevill Posts: 59	Death to capitolism! __________________ \"Freedom can only be gained through the barrel of a shotgun\"<br />Mao Tse-Tung<p>The Workers have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win. WORKERS OF ALL COUNTRIES, UNITE!\"<br />Karl Marx and Frederick Engels

02-26-2002, 01:46 PM	#4
Ronn_Bman Zartan Join Date: March 11, 2001 Location: North Carolina USA Age: 57 Posts: 5,177	quote: Originally posted by Donut: Barry probably knows this. The Communist manifesto was written by Marx and Engles in a room over the Red Lion pub in St John's Street in Islington, London. This would be of little importance if it wasn't for the fact that Barry lives only a few hundred yards away from it! I spent many years drinking in the downstairs bar! I didn't do much political writing! The pub doesn't exist anymore - I think it's a japanese restaurant now. Yeah, I'm sure that one sentance description from Chase's does no justice to Barry's knowledge of the document, but sometimes the anniversary of historical events get over-looked, so I thought I'd mention it. [img]smile.gif[/img] Very cool info about his location in relation to this, and your visit to the bar! I'm sure creating any historic document there won't be looked on quite the same in the future. Politics over sushi anyone? [ 02-26-2002: Message edited by: Ronn_Bman ] __________________ [img]\"http://home.carolina.rr.com/orthanc/pics/Spinning%20Hammer%20Sig%20Pic.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

02-26-2002, 01:56 PM	#5
Galadria 20th Level Warrior Join Date: November 3, 2001 Location: Texas Age: 54 Posts: 2,830	quote: Originally posted by Janus: Death to capitolism! LOL, I don't think that Capitalism has much to worry about, if its enemies can't even spell it right. __________________ Lady Galadria,Goddess\' Equal of the O.R.T.; [img]\"http://havak.db-forge.com/portraits/bitmaps/wlf180L.bmp\" alt=\" - \" /><br />\"Romance at short notice was her specialty.\" - Saki <br />Founder of the IW Branch of the Anti-Anomen Society

02-26-2002, 02:47 PM	#6
MagiK Guest Posts: n/a	quote: Originally posted by Galadria: LOL, I don't think that Capitalism has much to worry about, if its enemies can't even spell it right. Hey!! Maybe he just hates domed buildings

02-26-2002, 03:38 PM	#7
Evil Al Drow Warrior Join Date: October 5, 2001 Location: Aberdeen, United Kingdom Age: 38 Posts: 292	quote: Originally posted by Janus: Death to capitolism! This statement is extremely funny to me because communist countries are encouraging business to move in. They have seen that a country can't make money without and businesses that don't (make money). Its all fine-having factories that make a loss each year just to keep people in work but it doesn't work if all your factories do that. I think Janus has the wrong idea about what communism really is, but then again not many people do. __________________ I\'m not bigheaded but go here and tell me just how sexy i am [url]\"http://www.faceparty.com/al_the_drunkard\" target=\"_blank\">www.faceparty.com/al_the_drunkard</a><br /><br />War in iraq? Not in my name!<br /><br />Disarm America.

02-26-2002, 04:18 PM	#8
khazadman User suspended until [Feb13] Join Date: December 6, 2001 Location: the south side of ol virginny Age: 62 Posts: 1,172	the workers did throw off their chains!why do you think communism collapsed in all but,what,three countries?and two of these are begging foreign companies to let them make their toys.capitolism rocks!capitolism beats standing in line all day for sand,i mean toilet,paper.cause that is basically why it collapsed.they wanted political and ECONOMIC freedom. so marx wrote that trash over a pub?that explains it. marx:hey engels,i got one.hic.religion is the opiate of the masses. engels:thats a crock of s**t!hee hee.lets put it in.those idiots will buy it. ---------------------- CAPITOLISM ROCKS!

02-26-2002, 04:35 PM	#9
Talthyr Malkaviel Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: August 31, 2001 Location: Land of the Britons Age: 37 Posts: 3,224	quote: Originally posted by khazadman: the workers did throw off their chains!why do you think communism collapsed in all but,what,three countries?and two of these are begging foreign companies to let them make their toys.capitolism rocks!capitolism beats standing in line all day for sand,i mean toilet,paper.cause that is basically why it collapsed.they wanted political and ECONOMIC freedom. so marx wrote that trash over a pub?that explains it. marx:hey engels,i got one.hic.religion is the opiate of the masses. engels:thats a crock of s**t!hee hee.lets put it in.those idiots will buy it. ---------------------- CAPITOLISM ROCKS! Maybe you didn't stop to think that Communism was a good theory, but the way it was carried out was wrong. If it had been done differently, say without the politicians having obscene amounts of money compared to normal people and there wasn't as much corruption, they wouldn't be in the huge debts and problems they are now. Also, I think your last statement is offensive to people who think Marx's ideas are good. __________________ Resident cantankerous sorcerer of the Clan HADB<br />and Sorcerous Nuttella salesman of the O.R.T<br /> <br /><br />Say NO to the Trouser Tyranny! Can I drill you about this?

02-26-2002, 04:53 PM	#10
Wedin Guest Posts: n/a	You know, neither Sovjet, China, Cuba and so further did/does have pure marxistic comunism. In sovjet it was first leninism, followed by stalinism, which also cuba is is using. in china, maoism reigns. Khazadman, have you even read it? Otherwise, you can't really say it is crap. The fact that people in comunistic countrys suffer isn't that they live in a communism, it is because they are ruled by a dictator. Hitler and die Nationalsocialistiche Deutshe Arbeiterpartei (spl?) was to the right, as was Mussolini. The russian Tsar who was overthrowned by the boljeviks, was one of the most hated men in europe at that time. His relative, the king/ruler of england didn't even dare to let him into his country when the Tsar noticed that his life was in danger, because he feared riots in his own country then. The Tsar was conservative, to the right. His people suffered as much as they did under a communistic goverment to the left. I don't think that communism is bad. But I also think capitalism is good. A mix of both is the best, in my belives.

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