Is it better to carry a gun or not?

[Spelca]

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that there should be NO guns. Just the laws should be much much stricter, so that just anybody wouldn't be able to get it.
There should be check-ups on those people that own a gun and also have children to see how they keep guns. If the gun wouldn't be stored properly, propely locked, etc., there should be some kind of penalty. That way gun-owners with children would store their guns properly. Maybe... [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Neb]

The problem with locking up or hiding a gun in such a way that a child cannot possibly get to it is that if someone then breaks into your home it'll probably be too difficult to get to it for you to be able to find it before the burglar has found you. People with children should simply not be allowed to own guns.

[Spelca]

Originally posted by MILAMBER: ... I ask you, where is the difference between shooting bows and shooting rifles? Is archery a noble sport and shooting not? Both were initially created with the sole purpose of killing, yet exceptions are made in one instance and not the other. Why is that? I submit that shooting guns is no different then shooting a bow and arrow. Both can be dangerous in the hands of those lacking maturity and training.

There's nothing wrong with shooting as a sport. But walking around with a gun is different. And there is a difference between walking around with a gun and with a bow. You can see the bow, and you can't see the gun...

I would be terrified to go out on the street if I knew that people have guns with them... I would feel less safe then than I do now when I know that it's harder to get a gun. I'm in Sweden btw. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Spelca]

Originally posted by Neb: The problem with locking up or hiding a gun in such a way that a child cannot possibly get to it is that if someone then breaks into your home it'll probably be too difficult to get to it for you to be able to find it before the burglar has found you. People with children should simply not be allowed to own guns.

I don't understand that either... They have guns to protect their homes. But if they have children the gun should be safely locked, so it would be impossible to get to it quickly enough. So what's the point of having a gun then? [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Azred]

Originally posted by Spelca: And there is a difference between walking around with a gun and with a bow. You can see the bow, and you can't see the gun...

Not really. Were I to walk through downtown Dalls with a bow I would quickly be stopped by the police for carrying a potentially dangerous weapon.

Originally posted by Spelca: I would be terrified to go out on the street if I knew that people have guns with them... I would feel less safe then than I do now when I know that it's harder to get a gun. I'm in Sweden btw. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I doesn't take guns to make the streets unsafe; glass bottles or bricks can do that. Or fists. Do those make you feel unsafe?

[Neb]

Originally posted by Azred: quote: Originally posted by Spelca: I would be terrified to go out on the street if I knew that people have guns with them... I would feel less safe then than I do now when I know that it's harder to get a gun. I'm in Sweden btw. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I doesn't take guns to make the streets unsafe; glass bottles or bricks can do that. Or fists. Do those make you feel unsafe?[/QUOTE]BUT, it is a LOT easier to kill someone with a gun than with a glass bottle, brick or fist. And it'd certainly make me feel unsafe if people were wandering around the streets with glass bottles and bricks held like weapons....

Also, it's kinda easier to run from someone attacking you with a glass bottle than someone shooting at you with a gun. Plus, getting stabbed with a glass bottle is also less likely to kill you than being shot. At least I think so.

[Alexander]

Originally posted by Sir Kenyth: Another thought. Should a bad turn occur in our government, does the army take orders from you and your neighbors? The occurance is unlikely, I agree. But who should be there to stop it if they render the populus impotent by disarmament and the removing of the constitutional rights? Bad regimes ALWAYS start with actions of this sort. The first thing Hitler did was collect up all the guns!

Sir Kenyth, that is the biggest myth that the gun lovers like to tell. Hitler never confiscated everyone's weapons, and I would like to see you back up your claim.

Second, if the government does decide to suddenly take over, with help from the military, what good is your pea-shooter or shotgun going to do against helicopters, tanks, cruise missiles, etc.? Not a bit of good.

[Alexander]

Originally posted by Neb: The problem with locking up or hiding a gun in such a way that a child cannot possibly get to it is that if someone then breaks into your home it'll probably be too difficult to get to it for you to be able to find it before the burglar has found you. People with children should simply not be allowed to own guns.

I think the idea of someone owning a gun is more terrifying than someone actually pointing one at you. I once read an interesting story about a burglar trying to break into a man's house and finding all sorts of deterrants set up ("Beware of dog" signs, security system signs, and even a note on the door to a "friend" that the owner would be back in a few minutes). Of course, the owner has neither the dog, nor the system, nor the friend, but he was successful in deterring the burglar.

So, I think the best idea would be for everyone to put signs up, ranging from "Be back in a few minutes" to "The owners are armed". This is a lot less dangerous, and probably a lot more successful - I know I wouldn't want to risk getting shot just for breaking into a house.

[Dreamer128]

Originally posted by Spelca: quote: Originally posted by MILAMBER: ... I ask you, where is the difference between shooting bows and shooting rifles? Is archery a noble sport and shooting not? Both were initially created with the sole purpose of killing, yet exceptions are made in one instance and not the other. Why is that? I submit that shooting guns is no different then shooting a bow and arrow. Both can be dangerous in the hands of those lacking maturity and training.

There's nothing wrong with shooting as a sport. But walking around with a gun is different. And there is a difference between walking around with a gun and with a bow. You can see the bow, and you can't see the gun...
[/QUOTE]I don't see a kid with a bow killing 18 students, but thats just me.

Originally posted by Alexander: quote: Originally posted by Sir Kenyth: Another thought. Should a bad turn occur in our government, does the army take orders from you and your neighbors? The occurance is unlikely, I agree. But who should be there to stop it if they render the populus impotent by disarmament and the removing of the constitutional rights? Bad regimes ALWAYS start with actions of this sort. The first thing Hitler did was collect up all the guns!

Sir Kenyth, that is the biggest myth that the gun lovers like to tell. Hitler never confiscated everyone's weapons, and I would like to see you back up your claim.

Second, if the government does decide to suddenly take over, with help from the military, what good is your pea-shooter or shotgun going to do against helicopters, tanks, cruise missiles, etc.? Not a bit of good.[/QUOTE]The weimar republic made anyone who had anything to do with firearms or weapons registar with local authorities. When hitler took power, all he had to do was use the records and go along and collect up any guns he wanted to. The nazis tried to make sure no jewish people could hold firearms.