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Old 09-07-2003, 09:54 PM   #21
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This may sound odd, but does the judge have something against you and your husband? Just from what you've said, it sounds like he doesn't like you both very much [img]graemlins/erm.gif[/img]
lol, I have wondered this mysel, and it could be that, 1 the judges court room is right by the other judges court where my brother got off on the plea bargin, and that being the case, judge of brothers court could have *intrevened* and told this judge that we let him off.(that story is in this thread somewhere).
and 2, it could be known by said judge that my husband worked as law enforcement since he joined the army, and decided that it was time or him to see how the other half lived, this judge is notorious or convicting people, everyone is araid to go before him.\

as or PMing TL, there really is not alot he can do about it, that our lawyer is not already trying
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Old 09-07-2003, 09:59 PM   #22
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He even does this kind of thing to other people too? Someone that does that because it's part of their tendencies should really not be in the court system, but of course there's not much to be done about it.

*Says in a hissing voice*

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Old 09-07-2003, 10:12 PM   #23
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stormy sorry about your husbands conviction... i hope he gets cleared from it soon [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-08-2003, 06:22 PM   #24
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The American Judical system SUCKS!!!
 
Old 09-08-2003, 07:06 PM   #25
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Stormy's right. If I got involved, even if I did it for free, it might piss off her hubby's lawyer and it would certainly increase the time HE bills for.

Are you sure it was a CONVICTION and not just a CHARGE??? Was there a trial yet or just a pre-trial hearing??? Look, there's something fishy going on here. What EVIDENCE did the state put on? Did ANYONE testify against him? Who? Officers? His boss?? The state must put on SOME evidence. If not, I'd check to see who the judge's golfing buddies are.

If he was convicted, is he free now? Is he incarcerated while awaiting sentencing?? I know it will cost, but it is imperative you force your attorney to undertake every appeal. The odds are against you on appeal -- normally the judge had to decide "against the manifest weight of the evidence" for you to win an appeal.

But, where there is a conviction on NO evidence, you can possibly win.
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Old 09-08-2003, 09:54 PM   #26
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Stormy's right. If I got involved, even if I did it for free, it might piss off her hubby's lawyer and it would certainly increase the time HE bills for.

Are you sure it was a CONVICTION and not just a CHARGE??? Was there a trial yet or just a pre-trial hearing??? Look, there's something fishy going on here. What EVIDENCE did the state put on? Did ANYONE testify against him? Who? Officers? His boss?? The state must put on SOME evidence. If not, I'd check to see who the judge's golfing buddies are.

If he was convicted, is he free now? Is he incarcerated while awaiting sentencing?? I know it will cost, but it is imperative you force your attorney to undertake every appeal. The odds are against you on appeal -- normally the judge had to decide "against the manifest weight of the evidence" for you to win an appeal.

But, where there is a conviction on NO evidence, you can possibly win.
he has been convicted, and has to go to sentencing this month, there was no testimony against him, and no evindence, but the judge apperently thinks the charge was enough, the only testimony was for him, not against him.
he has already been to pre sentencing probation, so I know it was a conviction of a class C felony, and the woman who testified for him, said that they had no evidence, the only thing they had was on paper

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Old 09-08-2003, 10:20 PM   #27
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Err... SM are you saying they filed charges, brought your husband to court, let the wife of his boss testify for him, then said "you're guilty"? Umm, somehow I think there must have been more to it than that?!

I hope your lawyer can fix things or have a light sentence if that's the best he can arrange. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-08-2003, 11:38 PM   #28
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I learned on CSI Miami that if the case appears to be equal on both sides, and no tangible evidence is presented against the person...the court has to go in favor of the defence.
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Old 09-09-2003, 01:59 PM   #29
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so eel ree to vent your oppinion of the american judical system
Okay.
That totally sucks!
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:34 PM   #30
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I learned on CSI Miami that if the case appears to be equal on both sides, and no tangible evidence is presented against the person...the court has to go in favor of the defence.
Sorry to be blunt, but pfffft. If the "beyond any reasonable doubt" standard was actually used, it'd be like the fantasy-based show The PRactice, where the defense wins 95% of the time, rather than like the reality-based Law & Order where the prosecution wins 95% of the time. Seriously, that's a real statistic.
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