Your opinions?

[Neb]

Not too long ago a murder happened in Denmark, not too rare and occurence but it did have one thing to make it slightly special. The killer was the father of a girl that was 9 years old. The killed was a paedophile who had apparently attempted to have sex with the killer's daughter. I can't quite remember why this was not just reported, but I believe that it was because the killer lacked evidence.

Now, assuming that this is true, and that evidence was found after the killing supporting that the killed was a paedophile that had been after the killer's daughter, what should the killer's punishment, if any, be?

Personally I think that he SHOULD have SOME form of punishment, otherwise it'd inspire too many others to vigilante justice. Or have it as a new form of alibi, planting false evidence and then shouting in court: "But he was a paedophile that was after my son/daughter!"

His punishment should not be as bad as the normal punishment for murder either, however, as he, in my opinion, killed one of the most despicable scum on Earth and was protecting his own child.

Now, your opinions.

(If I've got anything wrong about what happened in the actual Danish crime, will some Dane who knows the truth please correct me?)

[andrewas]

Give the guy a medal for standing up to protect society and his family.

Then throw him in prison for not attempting to use something less extreme.
But defence of yourself or your family is one of the few reasons you are allowed to use lethal force if absolutley neccesary, so maybe just a fine? Im not sure on how these things work on the plane of eternal boredom.

[johnny]

If i had a daughter who was molested by such a pervert i'd kill him too. And after that i'd report to the police. I know it's wrong, but i would still do it, if given the chance.

[Zarr]

Originally posted by johnny: If i had a daughter who was molested by such a pervert i'd kill him too. And after that i'd report to the police. I know it's wrong, but i would still do it, if given the chance.

I agree if I had a daughter molested I'd kill them too. I do beleive though he should be punished how exactly I don't know but taking revenge(even though I'd do it) is still wrong.

[Ar-Cunin]

Two minor points Neb

1) the crime was reported - and was under investigation

2) The father didn't kill the alleged pedophile - a friend of the father shot him (although the father was driving the van from where the shot was fired)

I can in to way accept the killing of the man - you're innocent until proven guilty. We have had plenty of false accusations of incest/pedophile attacks in Denmark - at one time it even become 'common' for the mother to accuse the father in the more 'nasty' divorce cases.

It is the same in England - even though the janitor and the assistent teacher, who have been arrested for murdering the two 10-year-old girls, haven't even been charged, they are already assumed to be guilty. Wait for the justice system to make its verdict - then throw the book at them.

[Kaltia]

I had a sicko sit next to me on the bus once, drunk and swaying, he asked me to "get off the bus and have a good time". After yelling "F**K OFF U CREEP!!!!!!!!* at the top of my lungs and having him slung off the bus, I got home and told my parents. My dad grabbed the car keys and with a set look on his face and took me to the car; when my mum asked what he was going to do he said "I'm gonna find that f***ing f**khole and I'm gonna run him over! Then reverse the car!!!!"

Luckily we didn't find the guy and my mum drove me up to the local police station and we reported the creep.

But what I'm saying is that most fathers feel protective over their daughters and I know my dad enough to know he really would have run the weirdo over and reversed,

[Zarr]

Well talking about the incident in England the caretaker has been charged with the murder of the two girls. At this point it doesn't seem like the woman has. There saying he is mentally ill so they're not sure if he'll get the book thrown at him or not what's everyones opinion on this?

I think Neb's right. The killer should be punished for his crime but there is the cause of provocation to consider

I don't know how punishments scale in Denmark to say what the sentencec should be however. At the least he and the girl should need counselling to make their way through the whole affair

[Neb]

Originally posted by Lord Shield: I think Neb's right. The killer should be punished for his crime but there is the cause of provocation to consider I don't know how punishments scale in Denmark to say what the sentencec should be however. At the least he and the girl should need counselling to make their way through the whole affair

Punishments are scaled VERY badly here in Denmark, I can't remember, but isn't the max for murder something like 18 years?

[Barry the Sprout]

Personally I have a very Utilitarian view of justice anyway. If this guy is going to do more harm to society then I think he should be stopped in some way. but if he was only after the one guy and he managed to get him then I think the best course might be for him to claim some kind of temporary insanity brought on by fear/anger. But I also think if you are going to be lenient to the father then you have to be lenient to the peadophile, thats what justice is all about really. So this one is a bit of a catch 22 if you want the best for everyone, victims and perpetrators (sp?) of both crimes, whilst maintaining the equal treatment that is the foundation of justice.