Accent, or no accent? - Page 8

Charlie · 01-22-2003, 09:03 AM

Grungi mate.

If you were in the rubber with me and a few of my muckers, rifle in yer sky and a smile on yer boat....you could sit and shant with us but you would hardly understand what we were saying....not quite true obviously. You would understand the English words but struggle to keep up with the conversation because of the hardcore slang.

Believe me, it's how I commonly speak (among friends, in my local shops, the pub.) I post in common English to be understood.

[ 01-22-2003, 09:11 AM: Message edited by: Charlie ]

Niadh · 01-22-2003, 09:08 AM

When I was in Florida at the summer I had to invent some words to confuse people. Or talk about made up things. And the good old haggis stories are funny.

Also it is annoying how you call everything different like rolls and not understand egg physics. And you all seem to like bacon crispy.

Grungi · 01-22-2003, 09:34 AM

well i probably wouldnt struggle cos im english and i know a fair amount of rhyming slang , but thats still not like that danny john jules thing, you know the bit i mean? i consider that hardcore londoner, im yet to meet anyone who can speak like that.

though i thought rubber meant to shag someone [img]tongue.gif[/img] (rubber ducky - good Censored - shag, oh well no wonder that line confused me [img]tongue.gif[/img] )

well either that or a rubber johnny as in condom.

and whats wrong with crispy bacon hmmm?

[ 09-12-2003, 10:48 PM: Message edited by: Larry_OHF ]

Niadh · 01-22-2003, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grungi:

though i thought rubber meant to shag someone [img]tongue.gif[/img] (rubber ducky - good fucky - shag, oh well no wonder that line confused me [img]tongue.gif[/img] )

well either that or a rubber johnny as in condom.

Second is correct. As I go anyway.
Ruber Johnny. hehe.

Quote:

Originally posted by Grungi:

and whats wrong with crispy bacon hmmm?

The fact that you can't pick it up with a fork. Or you can after it is in a gazillion little bits when you push bits onto the fork. Its like crisps, really.

Charlie · 01-22-2003, 10:01 AM

Poor spelling. Rub a Dub = Pub. Rubbah, rubber (dub) pub. My bad.

Oddly enough regarding accents. I just had a real good Jamaican mate of mine round. He just left. He has the most beautiful, slow, laid back kind of drawling speech. There is absolutely no way most people on this forum would understand him, he still speaks patwa. I understand him through years upon years of friendship and I think, the westernisation of his accent. I still struggle to understand his son (he came from Jamaica last year), I have to speak to him face on because although he speaks English/Patwa I just can't understand him properly over the phone. (Dog)

Odd that he should turn up when talking about accents.

(EDIT) PS. I never saw Lock, Stock so maybe we're talking at loose ends...

[ 01-22-2003, 10:02 AM: Message edited by: Charlie ]

Grungi · 01-22-2003, 10:06 AM

ah okay, phew im not going mad then [img]smile.gif[/img] yes i know rub a dub dub at least.
watch lock stock a) a very good film and b) theres a bit where danny john jules (cat out of reddwarf) goes to a story in hardcore cockney, its subtitled and he uses everything he can get his tongue round basically, its quite funny, anyhows watch it! [img]smile.gif[/img]

i understand jamaicans normally when they speak, i like the language i must admit, i imitate it quite a bit "ay mon, would you like some of me ganga mon?" [img]tongue.gif[/img] they do get pretty hard esp the older guys (ever watch jamaica uncovered on sky one? with the old guy sending his child out to pick some weed for him to smoke, he was v.hard to understand but funny the way he spoke)

use your fingers to pick it up then [img]smile.gif[/img] if i cant stab something with a fork i go for fingers, easier to dip it in the baked beans then for the sauce [img]smile.gif[/img]

Horatio · 01-22-2003, 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by Donut:
Many times in the US I've been asked 'Are you Australian?'. I had to change the way I spoke there because I just couldn't get myself understood. I slowed down my speech and enunciated every word. I don't think I ever returned to my original accent.

Lol, reminds me of a time in Spain. I was standing behind some old Brit in a line for food. He was trying to order things in English, and the poor guy behind the counter couldn't understand a word. The old guy didn't try to change his accent though. He just shouted louder and louder and pointed until he was understood

Donut · 01-22-2003, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Horatio:

quote:
Originally posted by Donut:
Many times in the US I've been asked 'Are you Australian?'. I had to change the way I spoke there because I just couldn't get myself understood. I slowed down my speech and enunciated every word. I don't think I ever returned to my original accent.

Lol, reminds me of a time in Spain. I was standing behind some old Brit in a line for food. He was trying to order things in English, and the poor guy behind the counter couldn't understand a word. The old guy didn't try to change his accent though. He just shouted louder and louder and pointed until he was understood [/QUOTE]Just like Davros in France!!!

COKE PLEASE!!!!!!!

Ladyzekke · 01-22-2003, 09:38 PM

Just for the record, I know what Charlie sounds like, and his Cockney accent sometimes is so thick I can't tell what the hell he is saying LOL, not to mention he talks so fast to boot, it is really funny how a person can speak English words, but I not only can't understand half the words he is saying, but even when I do his words don't make sense to me LOL! I have spent a lot of time saying "What?" "Can You Repeat That?" "I Didn't Quite Get That?" "What Does That Phrase Mean?" etc., etc., etc... Thing is, if he makes an effort, he can talk slowly and I can understand him perfectly, just get him when he is all relaxed and discussing a particular subject, off he goes, into Cockney land, where everyone talks and walks a mile a second, and nobody on the "outside" can understand completely everything what is being said!

It's quite funny actually, I enjoy trying to "decipher"!

Although in summary, I have to say Ramon y Ramon y Ramon's accent was the most difficult for me to understand (German), even though he was speaking English, that accent just made it so difficult (used to multiplay using Yahooo Voice Conference BGI with him and Bilqis ages ago).

Yorick · 01-22-2003, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grungi:
everyone has accents but some are alot stronger than others, californian accent isnt very strong at all,

Oh what rot. It's all relative. To a South African a Californian has a strong accent.

01-22-2003, 09:03 AM	#71
Charlie Lord Ao Join Date: March 3, 2001 Location: London, England Age: 30 Posts: 2,021	Grungi mate. If you were in the rubber with me and a few of my muckers, rifle in yer sky and a smile on yer boat....you could sit and shant with us but you would hardly understand what we were saying....not quite true obviously. You would understand the English words but struggle to keep up with the conversation because of the hardcore slang. Believe me, it's how I commonly speak (among friends, in my local shops, the pub.) I post in common English to be understood. [ 01-22-2003, 09:11 AM: Message edited by: Charlie ] __________________ [img]\"http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/ladyzekke/england1.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br />One Love, Peace. [img]\"http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/ladyzekke/pissr.gif\" alt=\" - \" /> [img]\"http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/ladyzekke/piss.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

01-22-2003, 09:08 AM	#72
Niadh Elminster Join Date: August 16, 2002 Location: Scotland Age: 39 Posts: 401	When I was in Florida at the summer I had to invent some words to confuse people. Or talk about made up things. And the good old haggis stories are funny. Also it is annoying how you call everything different like rolls and not understand egg physics. And you all seem to like bacon crispy. __________________ A Knight is sworn to darkness. <br />His heart knows only hatred.<br />His sword destroys the helpless,<br />His might imprisons the weak.<br />His wrath upholds the wicked, <br />His word speaks only lies.<br /><br /> [img]\"http://www.boomspeed.com/niadh/newiwsig.jpg\" alt=\" - \" />

01-22-2003, 10:01 AM	#75
Charlie Lord Ao Join Date: March 3, 2001 Location: London, England Age: 30 Posts: 2,021	Poor spelling. Rub a Dub = Pub. Rubbah, rubber (dub) pub. My bad. Oddly enough regarding accents. I just had a real good Jamaican mate of mine round. He just left. He has the most beautiful, slow, laid back kind of drawling speech. There is absolutely no way most people on this forum would understand him, he still speaks patwa. I understand him through years upon years of friendship and I think, the westernisation of his accent. I still struggle to understand his son (he came from Jamaica last year), I have to speak to him face on because although he speaks English/Patwa I just can't understand him properly over the phone. (Dog) Odd that he should turn up when talking about accents. (EDIT) PS. I never saw Lock, Stock so maybe we're talking at loose ends... [ 01-22-2003, 10:02 AM: Message edited by: Charlie ] __________________ [img]\"http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/ladyzekke/england1.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br />One Love, Peace. [img]\"http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/ladyzekke/pissr.gif\" alt=\" - \" /> [img]\"http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/ladyzekke/piss.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

01-22-2003, 09:38 PM	#79
Ladyzekke Ironworks Atomic Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Virginia, U.S.A. Age: 57 Posts: 9,005	Just for the record, I know what Charlie sounds like, and his Cockney accent sometimes is so thick I can't tell what the hell he is saying LOL, not to mention he talks so fast to boot, it is really funny how a person can speak English words, but I not only can't understand half the words he is saying, but even when I do his words don't make sense to me LOL! I have spent a lot of time saying "What?" "Can You Repeat That?" "I Didn't Quite Get That?" "What Does That Phrase Mean?" etc., etc., etc... Thing is, if he makes an effort, he can talk slowly and I can understand him perfectly, just get him when he is all relaxed and discussing a particular subject, off he goes, into Cockney land, where everyone talks and walks a mile a second, and nobody on the "outside" can understand completely everything what is being said! It's quite funny actually, I enjoy trying to "decipher"! Although in summary, I have to say Ramon y Ramon y Ramon's accent was the most difficult for me to understand (German), even though he was speaking English, that accent just made it so difficult (used to multiplay using Yahooo Voice Conference BGI with him and Bilqis ages ago). __________________ Reality Show Recaps

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01-22-2003, 09:34 AM	#73
Grungi Banned User Join Date: September 4, 2002 Location: no Age: 46 Posts: 1,446	well i probably wouldnt struggle cos im english and i know a fair amount of rhyming slang , but thats still not like that danny john jules thing, you know the bit i mean? i consider that hardcore londoner, im yet to meet anyone who can speak like that. though i thought rubber meant to shag someone [img]tongue.gif[/img] (rubber ducky - good Censored - shag, oh well no wonder that line confused me [img]tongue.gif[/img] ) well either that or a rubber johnny as in condom. and whats wrong with crispy bacon hmmm? [ 09-12-2003, 10:48 PM: Message edited by: Larry_OHF ]

01-22-2003, 10:06 AM	#76
Grungi Banned User Join Date: September 4, 2002 Location: no Age: 46 Posts: 1,446	ah okay, phew im not going mad then [img]smile.gif[/img] yes i know rub a dub dub at least. watch lock stock a) a very good film and b) theres a bit where danny john jules (cat out of reddwarf) goes to a story in hardcore cockney, its subtitled and he uses everything he can get his tongue round basically, its quite funny, anyhows watch it! [img]smile.gif[/img] i understand jamaicans normally when they speak, i like the language i must admit, i imitate it quite a bit "ay mon, would you like some of me ganga mon?" [img]tongue.gif[/img] they do get pretty hard esp the older guys (ever watch jamaica uncovered on sky one? with the old guy sending his child out to pick some weed for him to smoke, he was v.hard to understand but funny the way he spoke) use your fingers to pick it up then [img]smile.gif[/img] if i cant stab something with a fork i go for fingers, easier to dip it in the baked beans then for the sauce [img]smile.gif[/img]

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