Yoshimo (Spoilers)

Bruce The Aussie · 10-19-2003, 09:50 AM

ok..i had yoshimo in my party and went to the asylem place..(first time i've kept yoshi) and i was wondering if theres any way not to loose yoshimo? as quite frankly imoen is the suckiest character int he game, a pathetic mage and a bad theif....

if there isn't, are there any adversly bad effects of cheating him back into your group?

RoSs_bg2_rox · 10-19-2003, 10:50 AM

there is absolutely no reason why you have to take imoen, except for maybe roleplaying reasons. And as for cluaing (im presuming this is what you mean to do) Yoshimo back in, I dont think there is any adverse affects.

Tyrion · 10-19-2003, 12:48 PM

in multiplayer there is a bug that makes him join your party again (sometimes) but i guess you are playing sigleplayer...

Sonic · 10-19-2003, 12:52 PM

Hmm i think if he would play multiplayer he would cr8 his own thief and own characters(But maybi im wrong).

Sagramore · 10-19-2003, 01:18 PM

You could just petrify him before going into the asylum..... SPOILER

he still dies at the end (not 100% sure though...)

Sonic · 10-19-2003, 01:25 PM

Hehe i gotta test that to petrify him hehe.

Xzirox · 10-20-2003, 02:25 AM

sounds like a GREAT CHEESE IDEA

Dragonshadow · 10-20-2003, 10:49 AM

I just leave him in an inn and get him later.

Xzirox · 10-20-2003, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dragonshadow:
I just leave him in an inn and get him later.

That isnt supposed to work xD

SixOfSpades · 10-20-2003, 02:58 PM

Yoshimo: After patching and BaldurDashing your game, there is supposed to be no way to keep Yoshimo in your party beyond Spellhold. If you dropped him off someplace (such as the Copper Coronet), he will die as soon as you enter that specific map area. If you manage to run up and speak to him before he dies, he will still die, and also be kicked out of your party at the very same moment. I imagine that BaldurDash wrote in similar precautions for any possible Petrification/Imprisonment/Maze loopholes as well. Also, If Yoshimo is in your party, but *dead,* at the moment that Irenicus reveals himself, he will be dropped from the party at that point.

Imoen: A bad Thief? In some senses, yes. She can't set Traps worth beans, has no points at all in Detect Illusions, only a fool would try to Pickpocket with her 35% score, and she can't Stealth too well, either. But, looking at her strengths, you see that she's actually a decent Thief: 100% in Open Locks and 95% in Find/Disarm Traps is all you will ever need. Really. With a few good items (which you were likely going to get anyway), her Stealth skills can easily be brought up to par.
A bad Mage? That all depends on when you get her. If you miss your childhood friend and do everything humanly (or elvenly, or gnomishly....whatever) possible to rescue her as soon as possible, then Imoen will only be half a Mage level (or thereabouts) behind someone like Edwin or Nalia. If you happen to be toting around a Level 17 Nalia and a Level 13 Imoen, well, Guess Ya Should Have Rescued Her Sooner, Ya Heartless Bastard!

Jan: Don't like Imoen as a Thief? Take Jan. If you want it done, he can do it. (Provided it doesn't involve Necromancy, of course.)

10-19-2003, 09:50 AM	#1
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10-19-2003, 10:50 AM	#2
RoSs_bg2_rox Zartan Join Date: May 20, 2003 Location: Near Aberdeen, Scotland Age: 34 Posts: 5,225	there is absolutely no reason why you have to take imoen, except for maybe roleplaying reasons. And as for cluaing (im presuming this is what you mean to do) Yoshimo back in, I dont think there is any adverse affects. __________________ [img]\"http://img.ranchoweb.com/images/ladyzekke/dragonwater2.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

10-19-2003, 12:48 PM	#3
Tyrion Quintesson Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: straight outta Kålltorp Age: 37 Posts: 1,081	in multiplayer there is a bug that makes him join your party again (sometimes) but i guess you are playing sigleplayer... __________________ ...with the Bible and the Uzi as weapons

10-19-2003, 12:52 PM	#4
Sonic Zhentarim Guard Join Date: July 9, 2003 Location: Amn Age: 34 Posts: 352	Hmm i think if he would play multiplayer he would cr8 his own thief and own characters(But maybi im wrong). __________________ Never Underestimate Your Enemy.<br /><br />A Normal Dagger in the right hand\'s is as Dangerous as Crom Faeyr.

10-19-2003, 01:18 PM	#5
Sagramore Avatar Join Date: December 26, 2002 Location: Connecticut Age: 35 Posts: 528	You could just petrify him before going into the asylum..... SPOILER he still dies at the end (not 100% sure though...) __________________ \"\'Fleshy, honey\' the paladin said, \'Yes, baby\' said the golem\"<br /><br />I have seen the others and I have discovered that this fight is not worth fighting<br /><br /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[pimpser]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/pimpser.gif\" />

10-19-2003, 01:25 PM	#6
Sonic Zhentarim Guard Join Date: July 9, 2003 Location: Amn Age: 34 Posts: 352	Hehe i gotta test that to petrify him hehe. __________________ Never Underestimate Your Enemy.<br /><br />A Normal Dagger in the right hand\'s is as Dangerous as Crom Faeyr.

10-20-2003, 02:25 AM	#7
Xzirox Manshoon Join Date: October 11, 2003 Location: Sweden Age: 36 Posts: 183	sounds like a GREAT CHEESE IDEA __________________ Awmagod, im back!

10-20-2003, 10:49 AM	#8
Dragonshadow Quth-Maren Join Date: February 17, 2003 Location: Portsmouth Age: 34 Posts: 4,145	I just leave him in an inn and get him later. __________________ aka Loc der Graf, Quillruke

10-20-2003, 02:58 PM	#10
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 46 Posts: 6,901	Yoshimo: After patching and BaldurDashing your game, there is supposed to be no way to keep Yoshimo in your party beyond Spellhold. If you dropped him off someplace (such as the Copper Coronet), he will die as soon as you enter that specific map area. If you manage to run up and speak to him before he dies, he will still die, and also be kicked out of your party at the very same moment. I imagine that BaldurDash wrote in similar precautions for any possible Petrification/Imprisonment/Maze loopholes as well. Also, If Yoshimo is in your party, but dead, at the moment that Irenicus reveals himself, he will be dropped from the party at that point. Imoen: A bad Thief? In some senses, yes. She can't set Traps worth beans, has no points at all in Detect Illusions, only a fool would try to Pickpocket with her 35% score, and she can't Stealth too well, either. But, looking at her strengths, you see that she's actually a decent Thief: 100% in Open Locks and 95% in Find/Disarm Traps is all you will ever need. Really. With a few good items (which you were likely going to get anyway), her Stealth skills can easily be brought up to par. A bad Mage? That all depends on when you get her. If you miss your childhood friend and do everything humanly (or elvenly, or gnomishly....whatever) possible to rescue her as soon as possible, then Imoen will only be half a Mage level (or thereabouts) behind someone like Edwin or Nalia. If you happen to be toting around a Level 17 Nalia and a Level 13 Imoen, well, Guess Ya Should Have Rescued Her Sooner, Ya Heartless Bastard! Jan: Don't like Imoen as a Thief? Take Jan. If you want it done, he can do it. (Provided it doesn't involve Necromancy, of course.) __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

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