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01-13-2003, 02:38 PM | #23 |
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Barry, I'll have to go with Madjim. No executed person ever killed anyone else. There are some crimes that are just too heinous to risk letting the perpetuator to live. And, Yorick, killing isn't always murder. Sometimes it is justified.
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Since some people do not seem to know the definitions...here we go!
MURDER: Main Entry: 1mur·der Pronunciation: 'm&r-d&r Function: noun Etymology: partly from Middle English murther, from Old English morthor; partly from Middle English murdre, from Old French, of Germanic origin; akin to Old English morthor; akin to Old High German mord murder, Latin mort-, mors death, mori to die, mortuus dead, Greek brotos mortal Date: before 12th century 1 : the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought 2 a : something very difficult or dangerous (the traffic was murder) b : something outrageous or blameworthy (getting away with murder) Main Entry: 2murder Function: verb Inflected Form(s): mur·dered; mur·der·ing /'m&r-d(&-)ri[ng]/ Date: 13th century transitive senses 1 : to kill (a human being) unlawfully and with premeditated malice 2 : to slaughter wantonly : SLAY 3 a : to put an end to b : TEASE, TORMENT c : MUTILATE, MANGLE (murders French) d : to defeat badly intransitive senses : to commit murder synonym see KILL KILL: Main Entry: 1kill Pronunciation: 'kil Function: verb Etymology: Middle English, perhaps from (assumed) Old English cyllan; akin to Old English cwellan to kill -- more at QUELL Date: 14th century transitive senses 1 a : to deprive of life b (1) : to slaughter (as a hog) for food (2) : to convert a food animal into (a kind of meat) by slaughtering 2 a : to put an end to (kill competition) b : DEFEAT, VETO (killed the amendment) c : to mark for omission; also : DELETE 3 a : to destroy the vital or essential quality of (killed the pain with drugs) b : to cause to stop (kill the motor) c : to check the flow of current through 4 : to make a markedly favorable impression on 5 : to get through uneventfully (kill time); also : to get through (the time of a penalty) without being scored on (kill a penalty) 6 a : to cause extreme pain to b : to tire almost to the point of collapse 7 : to hit (a shot) so hard in various games that a return is impossible 8 : to consume (as a drink) totally intransitive senses 1 : to deprive one of life 2 : to make a markedly favorable impression synonyms KILL, SLAY, MURDER, ASSASSINATE, DISPATCH, EXECUTE mean to deprive of life. KILL merely states the fact of death caused by an agency in any manner (killed in an accident) (frost killed the plants). SLAY is a chiefly literary term implying deliberateness and violence but not necessarily motive (slew thousands of the Philistines). MURDER specifically implies stealth and motive and premeditation and therefore full moral responsibility SLAY: Main Entry: slay Pronunciation: 'slA Function: verb Inflected Form(s): slew /'slü/; also esp in sense 2 slayed; slain /'slAn/; slay·ing Etymology: Middle English slen, from Old English slEan to strike, slay; akin to Old High German slahan to strike, Middle Irish slachta stricken Date: before 12th century transitive senses 1 : to kill violently, wantonly, or in great numbers; broadly : to strike down : KILL 2 : to delight or amuse immensely intransitive senses : KILL, MURDER synonym see KILL - slay·er noun (see also Buffy) WAR: Main Entry: 1war Pronunciation: 'wor Function: noun Usage: often attributive Etymology: Middle English werre, from Old North French, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German werra strife; akin to Old High German werran to confuse Date: 12th century 1 a (1) : a state of usually open and declared armed hostile conflict between states or nations (2) : a period of such armed conflict (3) : STATE OF WAR b : the art or science of warfare c (1) obsolete : weapons and equipment for war (2) archaic : soldiers armed and equipped for war 2 a : a state of hostility, conflict, or antagonism b : a struggle or competition between opposing forces or for a particular end (a class war) (a war against disease) c : VARIANCE, ODDS 3 - war·less /-l&s/ adjective Main Entry: 2war Function: intransitive verb Inflected Form(s): warred; war·ring Date: 13th century 1 : to be in active or vigorous conflict 2 : to engage in warfare EXECUTE: Main Entry: ex·e·cute Pronunciation: 'ek-si-"kyüt Function: verb Inflected Form(s): -cut·ed; -cut·ing Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French executer, back-formation from execution Date: 14th century transitive senses 1 : to carry out fully : put completely into effect (execute a command) 2 : to do what is provided or required by (execute a decree) 3 : to put to death especially in compliance with a legal sentence 4 : to make or produce (as a work of art) especially by carrying out a design 5 : to perform what is required to give validity to (execute a deed) 6 : PLAY (execute a piece of music) [ 01-13-2003, 03:05 PM: Message edited by: MagiK ] |
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01-13-2003, 03:22 PM | #27 |
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People, this is one of those topics where you are Not going to swing people's point of view to that of your own. Its best to just agree to disagree and understand that some people hold different points of view; it keeps things friendly and even tempered.
Now, if someone wants to make this a Poll, a statement could be made about the support of the issue by the board, but this just Isn't a Right vs Wrong Issue, no matter how strongly any of you may believe it to be.
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01-13-2003, 03:24 PM | #28 |
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LOL Qman you got that right! it just occasionally irks me to see some people make claims which have no factual studies on wich to hang them.
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01-13-2003, 03:38 PM | #30 |
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Yorick, All I can say is I disagree with you about executions of criminals and I also think you are being disingenuous when you compare the US death Penalty to the way oppressive regimes treat their citizens. It is one thing to kill innocent men and women in the streets and quite another to execute a criminal.
EDIT: You can also say that the USA is the one country that allows more people to live than any other country in the entire history of mankind. Our food programs and charitable contributions save more lives than those of the rest of the world combined (this from the world fact book) [ 01-13-2003, 03:41 PM: Message edited by: MagiK ] |
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