10-10-2003, 04:45 AM | #1 | |
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Do we, the public, need to critically analyze our sources of information for accuracy?
Is it not clear that we should be suspicious, if not outrightly mistrustful, of not only the media but the Bush administration as well? For no partisan reasons mind you, but because elements of both have almost continually spun and distorted the facts with regards to Iraq. How else can so many people have mistaken impressions about the war in Iraq? Article Quote:
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10-10-2003, 05:35 AM | #2 |
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Fair and balanced. They report we decide!
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10-10-2003, 03:01 PM | #3 | |
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If you go the report on page 14, you'll note that the origional graph does not match the right (EDIT: make that "left") side of the graph in you posted.
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10-10-2003, 05:21 PM | #4 | |
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10-10-2003, 06:00 PM | #5 | |
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You'll note the origional report said that with the question "Since the war ended, the U.S. has or has not found Iraqi weapons of mass destruction", and gives "print media 17%", and "PBS/NPR 11%", the graph that you posted has reversed the two numbers. |
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10-10-2003, 06:27 PM | #6 |
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Yes, I see that now that you mention it.
Wow, you've got an excellent eye for detail Seraph! I missed that discrepancy when I looked over the full report. Well, I think it was just a misprint and not an intentional distortion of the data. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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10-10-2003, 06:51 PM | #7 |
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I saw an October 2 associated press article on hindustantimes.com entitled "Kuwait foils smuggling of chemicals, bio warheads from Iraq." I kept looking for it to show up here, but alas and alack. It said a Kuwaiti newspaper reported that authorities foiled an attempt to smuggle $60- mil in chem weapons and warheads. It waid the suspects were watched after they entered Kuwait and later arrested -- and that Minister Sheik Nawwaf Al Ahmed Al Sabah would turn them over to the FBI.
1. Why haven't I seen this anywhere? 2. If it's true, wouldn't this mean one of the misconceptions is in fact held by the writers of the aritcle, and by all of you, rather than by the American people? |
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,99011,00.html http://www.chronwatch.com/featured/c...y.asp?aid=4498 Here is a link to the Hindustan Times home page, I did a site search and nothing about this story came up. http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/188_0,0005.htm Here is a link to the actual article from the second link I posted above, It appears the story has vanished into thin air, perhaps that is where it came from in the first place. http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/1...4,00050004.htm
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10-11-2003, 12:21 AM | #9 | |
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A question about this study of "misconceptions" I noticed one of the questions was about "clear evidence" By who's standards is the term "clear evidence" used? Did the asker take into account that their standard maybe differant then the answerer's? ie: The asker may need enough evidence to convict in a court of law, and the answerer may only need enough to convince them that there was a high probibility. It seems the people doing the study tried to take this into account in a study/poll they did in February, but not in this latest study if I read the report right. (page 13 or 14 IIRC)
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Of course, if one were to forget that Kuwait is *not* a democracy and that the Kuwaiti Information Ministry is *known* to release propaganda statements, one might be forgiven to take such claims seriously.
Good journalists immediately attempt to corroborate any stories released by the Information/progaganda ministry. Clearly, it was a junior reporter at the Hindustan Times who made an error of judgement over the story - and the editor withdrew it when it became clear that there was no evidence to substantiate it. |
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