Combating PK'ers

robertthebard · 07-20-2003, 06:54 PM

I was busily shopping in one of the few worlds that i persistantly play, when i got an invite to join a party. Seeing as how there were only the two of us on the server, and a lot of the areas are really hard for legit chars, i accepted. After several minutes of shopping, i went to the portal to return from whence i had come, and presto, i am being attacked, in a no pvp area, by a party member. My attempts at self defense failed, due to pvp settings,lol, so how did he manage to exploit them to attack me? I ran, and got back to the portal with enough time to jump, and the attacker did not follow, into a full pvp area, where the odds would have been a little more even. As much as i hate to ask, how is this done? I would like to hand any other PK'er his butt on a plate the next time it happens. This particular server is a server vault too, so, how is it done? I'm not wanting to be PK'ing on every server i got to, if at all, not my style, but i have no desire to be a lamb led to slaughter by the server's pvp settings. A duel is one thing, nothing against that, if both chars are willing, but not that malicious attack, where the attacker knows the victim cannot defend him/herself.

Micah Foehammer · 07-21-2003, 09:27 AM

The only way I can figure he did that is to hack into the server as a DM! In that case, he could conceivably attack you with impunity. Not sure how you defend against THAT type of griefer.

Memnoch · 07-21-2003, 10:52 AM

He was probably the DM, as Micah said. And that's not PKing, that's griefing as he said as well. Write it up as a bad experience and move on.

SpiritWarrior · 07-21-2003, 02:50 PM

Welcome to the Gamespy experience. Teeming with issue-ridden punk-assed kids.

robertthebard · 07-21-2003, 04:30 PM

As i said, he didn't succeed, i know how to build chars, monk speed, + boots of speed equals really fast runner, but i know the dm, quested with him once, for about three hours one night, and i can't see it being him. Besides, what do they gain? All i have to do is respawn, i can stand xp and gold loss with that char anyway. Is there some kind of PK hall of fame or something?

SpiritWarrior · 07-21-2003, 06:52 PM

Yeah it's a type of reject-bully room. You know, those kids who weren't tough enough to bully people in real life so try to exercse their feelings of anger and social inadequecy online. Really, the MPer world is *full* of haters.

robertthebard · 07-22-2003, 06:24 AM

glad to say i've managed to find a lot of places where it doesn't happen, and just move on. Plenty of pleasant people to run around with anyways.

Micah Foehammer · 07-22-2003, 08:16 AM

Robertthebard,

I wasn't suggesting that your buddy the DM was the "griefer" but rather that someone ELSE had hacked in and assumed the role of DM. It CAN be done on some servers.

BTW, since you apparently are familiar with playing bards - a question for you. What are the armor restrictions for a bard? Do spell casting penalties for wearing light or medium armor apply to a Bard?

robertthebard · 07-22-2003, 12:16 PM

Armor penalties apply to all arcane spell casters, including bards. Padded armor or mage robes are the best bets. I don't actually play alot of bards, i am a bard, but when i do, i'm looking at things like Arcane Archer, where I don't really have to get close to enemies, I have tanks for that. Don't remember off the top of my head, but i think that bards have light and med armor and can get the heavy armor feat, i wouldn't waste that feat on that though, as the penalties for the spell casting way outweigh the benefits of the armor.

Micah Foehammer · 07-22-2003, 01:22 PM

I would never have dreamed of putting a set of heavy plate on Deekin. lol He would have fallen down and kept screaming "Help! I've fallen ... and I can't get up!"

07-20-2003, 06:54 PM	#1
robertthebard Xanathar Thieves Guild Join Date: March 17, 2001 Location: Wichita, KS USA Age: 61 Posts: 4,537	I was busily shopping in one of the few worlds that i persistantly play, when i got an invite to join a party. Seeing as how there were only the two of us on the server, and a lot of the areas are really hard for legit chars, i accepted. After several minutes of shopping, i went to the portal to return from whence i had come, and presto, i am being attacked, in a no pvp area, by a party member. My attempts at self defense failed, due to pvp settings,lol, so how did he manage to exploit them to attack me? I ran, and got back to the portal with enough time to jump, and the attacker did not follow, into a full pvp area, where the odds would have been a little more even. As much as i hate to ask, how is this done? I would like to hand any other PK'er his butt on a plate the next time it happens. This particular server is a server vault too, so, how is it done? I'm not wanting to be PK'ing on every server i got to, if at all, not my style, but i have no desire to be a lamb led to slaughter by the server's pvp settings. A duel is one thing, nothing against that, if both chars are willing, but not that malicious attack, where the attacker knows the victim cannot defend him/herself. __________________ To those we have lost; May your spirits fly free. Good Music: Here. Interesting read, one of my blogs.

07-21-2003, 09:27 AM	#2
Micah Foehammer Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 3,253	The only way I can figure he did that is to hack into the server as a DM! In that case, he could conceivably attack you with impunity. Not sure how you defend against THAT type of griefer. __________________ “Every tavern’s an opportunity, I say.”

07-21-2003, 10:52 AM	#3
Memnoch Ironworks Moderator Join Date: February 28, 2001 Location: Boston/Sydney Posts: 11,771	He was probably the DM, as Micah said. And that's not PKing, that's griefing as he said as well. Write it up as a bad experience and move on. __________________

07-21-2003, 02:50 PM	#4
SpiritWarrior Jack Burton Join Date: May 31, 2002 Location: Ireland Posts: 5,854	Welcome to the Gamespy experience. Teeming with issue-ridden punk-assed kids. __________________ Still I feel like a child when I look at the moon, maybe I grew up a little too soon...

07-21-2003, 04:30 PM	#5
robertthebard Xanathar Thieves Guild Join Date: March 17, 2001 Location: Wichita, KS USA Age: 61 Posts: 4,537	As i said, he didn't succeed, i know how to build chars, monk speed, + boots of speed equals really fast runner, but i know the dm, quested with him once, for about three hours one night, and i can't see it being him. Besides, what do they gain? All i have to do is respawn, i can stand xp and gold loss with that char anyway. Is there some kind of PK hall of fame or something? __________________ To those we have lost; May your spirits fly free. Good Music: Here. Interesting read, one of my blogs.

07-21-2003, 06:52 PM	#6
SpiritWarrior Jack Burton Join Date: May 31, 2002 Location: Ireland Posts: 5,854	Yeah it's a type of reject-bully room. You know, those kids who weren't tough enough to bully people in real life so try to exercse their feelings of anger and social inadequecy online. Really, the MPer world is full of haters. __________________ Still I feel like a child when I look at the moon, maybe I grew up a little too soon...

07-22-2003, 06:24 AM	#7
robertthebard Xanathar Thieves Guild Join Date: March 17, 2001 Location: Wichita, KS USA Age: 61 Posts: 4,537	glad to say i've managed to find a lot of places where it doesn't happen, and just move on. Plenty of pleasant people to run around with anyways. __________________ To those we have lost; May your spirits fly free. Good Music: Here. Interesting read, one of my blogs.

07-22-2003, 08:16 AM	#8
Micah Foehammer Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 3,253	Robertthebard, I wasn't suggesting that your buddy the DM was the "griefer" but rather that someone ELSE had hacked in and assumed the role of DM. It CAN be done on some servers. BTW, since you apparently are familiar with playing bards - a question for you. What are the armor restrictions for a bard? Do spell casting penalties for wearing light or medium armor apply to a Bard? __________________ “Every tavern’s an opportunity, I say.”

07-22-2003, 12:16 PM	#9
robertthebard Xanathar Thieves Guild Join Date: March 17, 2001 Location: Wichita, KS USA Age: 61 Posts: 4,537	Armor penalties apply to all arcane spell casters, including bards. Padded armor or mage robes are the best bets. I don't actually play alot of bards, i am a bard, but when i do, i'm looking at things like Arcane Archer, where I don't really have to get close to enemies, I have tanks for that. Don't remember off the top of my head, but i think that bards have light and med armor and can get the heavy armor feat, i wouldn't waste that feat on that though, as the penalties for the spell casting way outweigh the benefits of the armor. __________________ To those we have lost; May your spirits fly free. Good Music: Here. Interesting read, one of my blogs.

07-22-2003, 01:22 PM	#10
Micah Foehammer Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 3,253	I would never have dreamed of putting a set of heavy plate on Deekin. lol He would have fallen down and kept screaming "Help! I've fallen ... and I can't get up!" __________________ “Every tavern’s an opportunity, I say.”

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