Kazaa (!) Sues Movie, Recording Industries

[/)eathKiller]

Way to go Kazaa! I hope the jury is as hung as a... err never mind that comment...

[WillowIX]

Ridiculous! File sharing is in violation with copyright laws. As for the record/video industry monopolizing the market, well sure they are. Still, their movies/music are copyrighted! On the other hand the music/movie industry would get more sympathy from me had the individual artists/creators filed the law suit in the first place. As it is now, it looks like alreay greedy leechers are looking for more money.

Oh and I want the best seats when Yorick arrives for this thread. I think he´ll be falling out of his chair.

[Night Stalker]

But, in trying to enforce their copyright, they are removing the user's free and fair use. Also, copyrights were never intened to be a cash cow inperpetuity. Oringinal copyright of the US was 14 years, then the content/idea became pulic. Now, I think it's like life + 80 years! And since corps not people own music/movies, how do you determine the life of a corp?

Anyway, what is needed is not copy protection, but distribution protection. Content producers need some protection, and so do consumers.

I'm glad Kazza is doing this. The corps are engaged in colusion and price fixing, but even if found guilty of it, I doubt anything will happen to them. Micro$oft was found guilty of being a monopoly, and they still haven't been punished.

[Yorick]

So, if Kazaa win that would set up a precedent where you could sue an artist who owns their own private record company, for not giving their music away for free.

How is that fair again?

[Yorick]

Originally posted by Night Stalker: But, in trying to enforce their copyright, they are removing the user's free and fair use. Also, copyrights were never intened to be a cash cow inperpetuity. Oringinal copyright of the US was 14 years, then the content/idea became pulic. Now, I think it's like life + 80 years! And since corps not people own music/movies, how do you determine the life of a corp? Anyway, what is needed is not copy protection, but distribution protection. Content producers need some protection, and so do consumers. I'm glad Kazza is doing this. The corps are engaged in colusion and price fixing, but even if found guilty of it, I doubt anything will happen to them. Micro$oft was found guilty of being a monopoly, and they still haven't been punished.

It was originally much longer than 14 years. More like 50 - 75 before a song became public domain. The problem was, composers were still alive when their songs became public domain and receiving nothing when people made advertisements or put them in films.

How is that fair?

[Yorick]

Originally posted by WillowIX: Ridiculous! File sharing is in violation with copyright laws. As for the record/video industry monopolizing the market, well sure they are. Still, their movies/music are copyrighted! On the other hand the music/movie industry would get more sympathy from me had the individual artists/creators filed the law suit in the first place. As it is now, it looks like alreay greedy leechers are looking for more money. Oh and I want the best seats when Yorick arrives for this thread. I think he´ll be falling out of his chair.

LOL! I fell indeed!

[Gabrielles blades]

its really utter BS the crap that kazza and other p2p programs go through
the technology has existed for a Loooong time to aquire music/movies for free; it hasnt negatively affected their sales yet and it probably wont for a long time to come.
Just go buy some cassette tapes or video tapes and record the old fashioned way from the tv and radio; same thing as kazaa prety much.

and as a P.S.
ive actualy downloaded many songs/videos from kaza and like programs...but this believe it or not Stimulated my interested in a band/artist/movie enough to BUY a CD/DVD; amazing, free marketing and theyre against it /sigh

[Yorick]

Originally posted by homer: quote: Sharman said the entertainment companies are behind the times and don't realize that consumers need not buy CDs, DVDs or videotapes to enjoy music or films.

How dose he expect said companies to make their money?[/QUOTE]Or artists and musicians? What incentive is there for an investor like a recording company to spend the necessary dollars in making a songwriters record, if there is no way to make money? These morons are destroying the recording industry. Like leeches sucking the lifeblood.

It just get's wierder and weirder.

Well, if they want to bring back the days where the only way you could hear an artist was to see them live, they are going the right way about it. Recording costs HUGE dollars. No-one will be able to record if they cannot recoup their costs. It simply won't happen.

Grab your old music while you can. The new stuff will run out if this keeps going.

Oh that's right. It's all crap anyway. If the record compamnies brought out good music there wouldn't be a problem right? Never mind that good music takes a financial RISK as opposed to SURE THINGS. But now there are no sure things, and less RISKS being made because even sure things like Eminem lose millions and millions of dolloars through downloading.

[Yorick]

Originally posted by Gabrielles blades: its really utter BS the crap that kazza and other p2p programs go through the technology has existed for a Loooong time to aquire music/movies for free; it hasnt negatively affected their sales yet and it probably wont for a long time to come. Just go buy some cassette tapes or video tapes and record the old fashioned way from the tv and radio; same thing as kazaa prety much. and as a P.S. ive actualy downloaded many songs/videos from kaza and like programs...but this believe it or not Stimulated my interested in a band/artist/movie enough to BUY a CD/DVD; amazing, free marketing and theyre against it /sigh

Facts prove you wrong mate. Downloads have gutted sales and profits.

[Djinn Raffo]

The Recording industry needs to get with the times.

If Kazaa charged for it's use and paid the artists then file-sharing would be all right?

Making playlists or burning CD's with the tunes i want instead of buying a CD with the tunes i half want and half don't want.. well.. that's what i'd rather do and i wouldn't mind having to pay for that instead of paying for CD's.

That would be a win-win situation for you Yorick. Now the artists would be getting their just due and the consumer would be getting what he/she wants. It's Kazaa and other filesharing programmers and companies who would be the new recording industry and the existing companies would have to either get with the times or fade away.