10-25-2003, 01:42 AM | #1 | |
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The truth will set you free, supposedly...
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10-25-2003, 01:53 AM | #2 |
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I'm afraid at this point it looks as if history will write Bush, Jr.'s Presidency as one that began turbulently, pulled itself together to weather the storm of a major international crisis brilliantly, then allowed itself to be ineptly mis-managed into oblivion.
[img]graemlins/erm.gif[/img] If the Washington power structure doesn't quit pulling stunts like this and they risk losing in the next election, the conspiracist in me fears that another "major international crisis" might occur just in the nick of time to bolster support for a second term. Azred looks around to see if anyone is watching....
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10-25-2003, 07:22 AM | #3 |
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Is there anywhere we can get our sweaty little mits on a copy of this 'leaked' memo?
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10-25-2003, 07:35 AM | #4 | |
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Wednesday, October 22, 2003 FOX News October 16, 2003 TO: Gen. Dick Myers, Paul Wolfowitz, Gen. Pete Pace, Doug Feith FROM: Donald Rumsfeld SUBJECT: Global War on Terrorism The questions I posed to combatant commanders this week were: Are we winning or losing the Global War on Terror? Is DoD changing fast enough to deal with the new 21st century security environment? Can a big institution change fast enough? Is the USG changing fast enough? DoD has been organized, trained and equipped to fight big armies, navies and air forces. It is not possible to change DoD fast enough to successfully fight the global war on terror; an alternative might be to try to fashion a new institution, either within DoD or elsewhere - one that seamlessly focuses the capabilities of several departments and agencies on this key problem. With respect to global terrorism, the record since Septermber 11th seems to be: We are having mixed results with Al Qaeda, although we have put considerable pressure on them - nonetheless, a great many remain at large. USG has made reasonable progress in capturing or killing the top 55 Iraqis. USG has made somewhat slower progress tracking down the Taliban - Omar, Hekmatyar, etc. With respect to the Ansar Al-Islam, we are just getting started. Have we fashioned the right mix of rewards, amnesty, protection and confidence in the U.S.? Does DoD need to think through new ways to organize, train, equip and focus to deal with the global war on terror? Are the changes we have and are making too modest and incremental? My impression is that we have not yet made truly bold moves, although we have have made many sensible, logical moves in the right direction, but are they enough? Today, we lack metrics to know if we are winning or losing the global war on terror. Are we capturing, killing or deterring and dissuading more terrorists every day than the madrassas and the radical clerics are recruiting, training and deploying against us? Does the U.S. need to fashion a broad, integrated plan to stop the next generation of terrorists? The U.S. is putting relatively little effort into a long-range plan, but we are putting a great deal of effort into trying to stop terrorists. The cost-benefit ratio is against us! Our cost is billions against the terrorists' costs of millions. Do we need a new organization? How do we stop those who are financing the radical madrassa schools? Is our current situation such that "the harder we work, the behinder we get"? It is pretty clear that the coalition can win in Afghanistan and Iraq in one way or another, but it will be a long, hard slog. Does CIA need a new finding? Should we create a private foundation to entice radical madradssas to a more moderate course? What else should we be considering? Please be prepared to discuss this at our meeting on Saturday or Monday. Thanks This was posted Here ( www.foxnews.com ) Mark |
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10-25-2003, 07:55 AM | #5 |
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Skywalker : You're a gentleman and a scholar Cheers mate [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
ps: With his weighing up of DoD expenses and the dubious effectiveness of large-scale warfare against small-scale enemies Rumsfeld shows signs of intelligent thought in this memo. So why does he not speak like this in his public addresses? I would certainly have alot more respect for him if he spoke this forthrightly in public. Of course this could all be intentional propaganda, as has already been brought up. Hmmm... [ 10-25-2003, 08:03 AM: Message edited by: The Hierophant ]
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10-25-2003, 10:40 AM | #6 | |
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I believe that
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"With respect to global terrorism, the record since Septermber 11th seems to be:
Does DoD need to think through new ways to organize, train, equip and focus to deal with the global war on terror? Are the changes we have and are making too modest and incremental? My impression is that we have not yet made truly bold moves, although we have have made many sensible, logical moves in the right direction, but are they enough?" Fox appears to have messed with the formatting somewhat. MSNBC USATODAY.com Newsday LA Times Some random newspaper Fox is actually the only one who I could find that had their version of the memo format up. |
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10-25-2003, 03:24 PM | #7 |
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The Fox version was the first "version" I found when I googled. I guess I never expected the memo to be changed. Thanx for clarifying Seraph.
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10-25-2003, 04:06 PM | #8 |
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Whoops, I thought I had included a link to the text of the memo in the original post, but I must have overlooked it. Thanks for the good looking out, ya'll. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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