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Old 08-04-2002, 10:19 AM   #41
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Dramnek, they killed people with a handicap because they thought they were ill, that's not what i mean. A physical handicap is not the same as this.
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Old 08-04-2002, 10:23 AM   #42
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Dramnek, they killed people with a handicap because they thought they were ill, that's not what i mean. A physical handicap is not the same as this.
The National Socialists killed people who they thought were “feebleminded”
They killed people, who were psychopathic,
They tried to kill most anyone who had _Any_ form of disability, mental or physical,
Suggesting that we kill people who have mental disabilities that lead them to commit murders etc is similar policy pursued to the national socialists in Germany,
do you really wish to count yourself among such company in holding that view?

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Old 08-04-2002, 10:24 AM   #43
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I'm not a psychologist either Dram, but i just don't have the patience that you have on matters like this. And don't you think that comparing a common thief to a butcher like this goes a bit far ? And i'm not trying to be Ebenezer Scrooge here, i just don't think this guy is worth the taxpayers money. Same thing goes for guys like Charles Manson. What's the use of keeping him in a cage ? So that we can all be reminded what an evil character he is ? All it takes is one bullet and the world is rid of another maniac.
except for the maniac that ordered the bullet and the maniac that fired it[/QUOTE]Thank you for being so subtle dude, but in that case i'll gladly be the maniac who orders and fires the bullet myself. Better that, then wasting time on therapy, sending him back into society only to find out he does a similar thing shortly afterwards.
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Old 08-04-2002, 10:27 AM   #44
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i don't waste time on subtle in debates - a pointless decoration

if you can fire the bullet yourself, then maybe you neeed therapy too. Whether you feel justified or not, it is not normal to shoot people either
 
Old 08-04-2002, 10:30 AM   #45
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Thank you for being so subtle dude, but in that case i'll gladly be the maniac who orders and fires the bullet myself. Better that, then wasting time on therapy, sending him back into society only to find out he does a similar thing shortly afterwards.[/QB]
The implication drawn from this is that you think we should kill such people since they _might_ re-offend.
Killing people because they _Might_ do something?
Is that not a little undemocratic?
 
Old 08-04-2002, 10:31 AM   #46
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Why not hang him like in the old days? Hang him on the plaza with many peoples to look to hehe
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Old 08-04-2002, 10:36 AM   #47
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Why not hang him like in the old days? Hang him on the plaza with many peoples to look to hehe
go to the back of the class you LOL!!!

because it's barbaric and savage and we are supposed to have evolved beyond that
 
Old 08-04-2002, 10:38 AM   #48
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Why not hang him like in the old days? Hang him on the plaza with many peoples to look to hehe
Aha! let’s try out some Norwegian.

Gjør De virkelig tror at vi dreper folk som er mental syk? Er det deres feil som de er mental syke? Ingen, We holder dem ikke ansvarlig for noe som helst de gjør. Dette var selv en tragedie, men alt det samme vi lar ikke følelsessky rasjonell tanke.
 
Old 08-04-2002, 11:01 AM   #49
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Dramnek, they killed people with a handicap because they thought they were ill, that's not what i mean. A physical handicap is not the same as this.
The National Socialists killed people who they thought were “feebleminded”
They killed people, who were psychopathic,
They tried to kill most anyone who had _Any_ form of disability, mental or physical,
Suggesting that we kill people who have mental disabilities that lead them to commit murders etc is similar policy pursued to the national socialists in Germany,
do you really wish to count yourself among such company in holding that view?
[/QUOTE]The national socialists=nazi party?
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Old 08-05-2002, 08:24 AM   #50
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Dramnek, they killed people with a handicap because they thought they were ill, that's not what i mean. A physical handicap is not the same as this.
The National Socialists killed people who they thought were “feebleminded”
They killed people, who were psychopathic,
They tried to kill most anyone who had _Any_ form of disability, mental or physical,
Suggesting that we kill people who have mental disabilities that lead them to commit murders etc is similar policy pursued to the national socialists in Germany,
do you really wish to count yourself among such company in holding that view?
[/QUOTE]The national socialists=nazi party?
[/QUOTE]NSDAP
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