Increased difficulty after reload?

SillySorcerer · 10-28-2003, 08:45 AM

I recall that in BG1, there was some speculation that the difficulty of the final battle with Sarovok would increase exponentially each time you died-reloaded-tried again. After a few failed tries, the battle would become so difficult that it was pointless even to try.

The reason I bring it up is that a couple of nights ago I experienced something odd in ToB. I was battling Draconis and made some serious mistakes that got my little six pack killed. I reloaded and tried again, only to get several party members chunkified. On my third try, Draconis was so overwhelmingly powerful that nothing I did could even scratch him. My tried and true "time stop-improved alacrity-drop the hammer" tactic failed to lower his health in the slightest and my party quickly got slaughtered.

I quit in frustration only to try again, last night. This time, I killed him quickly and efficiently. Make me wonder what was going on. Do the battles become more difficult after a reload?

Xen · 10-28-2003, 08:58 AM

No they don`t. It just seems like sometime becuase one doesn`t have the right tactics to defeat certain enemie.

SillySorcerer · 10-28-2003, 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by Xen:
No they don`t. It just seems like sometime becuase one doesn`t have the right tactics to defeat certain enemie.

I'm not kidding, Xen, he was freakin' invulnerable. I usually beat down dragons with no trouble.

Xen · 10-28-2003, 01:31 PM

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Originally posted by SillySorcerer:

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Originally posted by Xen:
No they don`t. It just seems like sometime becuase one doesn`t have the right tactics to defeat certain enemie.

I'm not kidding, Xen, he was freakin' invulnerable. I usually beat down dragons with no trouble. [/QUOTE]No,no. You was just too messy with the tactics. Or had a one time bug.

SixOfSpades · 10-28-2003, 02:44 PM

The computer is not smart enough to make the enemies use progressively smarter tactics after each Reload. What was the case in BG1 was that, if you Reloaded in a wilderness area, the monsters that were set to randomly spawn in that area would respawn--so the 2nd batch appears, whether you killed the 1st batch or not. So, a Level 4 party shows up, runs into a group of 4 Black Talon Elites, and the party's Mage gets killed. Reload. Oops, now there are *8* Black Talons, we got our collective but whooped. Reload. Hey, wait, now there are *12* of them! Hellllpppp!!!!

BG2 does not use this Reload-respawning technique, at least not to my knowledge. What is more likely is that on your 2nd & 3rd attempts on Draconis, you simply suffered bad timing--your spells kapt failing due to his Invisibility, which meant you couldn't tear his protections down, etc.

Lord · 10-28-2003, 09:20 PM

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Originally posted by Xen:

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Originally posted by SillySorcerer:

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Originally posted by Xen:
No they don`t. It just seems like sometime becuase one doesn`t have the right tactics to defeat certain enemie.

I'm not kidding, Xen, he was freakin' invulnerable. I usually beat down dragons with no trouble. [/QUOTE]No,no. You was just too messy with the tactics. Or had a one time bug. [/QUOTE]Something like this couldn't be a bug, it's just not possible AFAIK.

Faceman · 10-29-2003, 03:57 AM

The only thing with ToB is that respawns are a lot more common than in SoA (remember Sendai's Enclave

) which may be hard to get used to for the first time.

10-28-2003, 08:45 AM	#1
SillySorcerer Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: September 19, 2003 Location: USA Age: 60 Posts: 38	I recall that in BG1, there was some speculation that the difficulty of the final battle with Sarovok would increase exponentially each time you died-reloaded-tried again. After a few failed tries, the battle would become so difficult that it was pointless even to try. The reason I bring it up is that a couple of nights ago I experienced something odd in ToB. I was battling Draconis and made some serious mistakes that got my little six pack killed. I reloaded and tried again, only to get several party members chunkified. On my third try, Draconis was so overwhelmingly powerful that nothing I did could even scratch him. My tried and true "time stop-improved alacrity-drop the hammer" tactic failed to lower his health in the slightest and my party quickly got slaughtered. I quit in frustration only to try again, last night. This time, I killed him quickly and efficiently. Make me wonder what was going on. Do the battles become more difficult after a reload? __________________ Show me the Gauntlets of Ogre Strength and I\'ll call it an RPG.

10-28-2003, 02:44 PM	#5
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 46 Posts: 6,901	The computer is not smart enough to make the enemies use progressively smarter tactics after each Reload. What was the case in BG1 was that, if you Reloaded in a wilderness area, the monsters that were set to randomly spawn in that area would respawn--so the 2nd batch appears, whether you killed the 1st batch or not. So, a Level 4 party shows up, runs into a group of 4 Black Talon Elites, and the party's Mage gets killed. Reload. Oops, now there are 8 Black Talons, we got our collective but whooped. Reload. Hey, wait, now there are 12 of them! Hellllpppp!!!! BG2 does not use this Reload-respawning technique, at least not to my knowledge. What is more likely is that on your 2nd & 3rd attempts on Draconis, you simply suffered bad timing--your spells kapt failing due to his Invisibility, which meant you couldn't tear his protections down, etc. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

10-29-2003, 03:57 AM	#7
Faceman Hathor Join Date: February 18, 2002 Location: Vienna Age: 42 Posts: 2,248	The only thing with ToB is that respawns are a lot more common than in SoA (remember Sendai's Enclave ) which may be hard to get used to for the first time. __________________ \"I am forever spellbound by the frailty of life\"<br /><br /> Faceman

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10-28-2003, 08:58 AM	#2
Xen Symbol of Moradin Join Date: June 5, 2002 Location: Slovenia,Ljubljana Age: 36 Posts: 8,554	No they don`t. It just seems like sometime becuase one doesn`t have the right tactics to defeat certain enemie.

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