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05-18-2002, 01:44 AM
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Cheers, -Saz
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05-18-2002, 01:46 AM
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  (j/k)(let me get out of here while the getting is good...) -Sazeraniac
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05-18-2002, 07:09 PM
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Emerald Dragon
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Scholarcs good luck, i wish i was back in the first semester, learning about the different encapulation types intamatly is not my idea of any fun [img]graemlins/oth30.gif[/img] talk about head spinning, at least learning to program routers and switches was fun.
[ 05-18-2002, 07:13 PM: Message edited by: Blade ]
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05-18-2002, 10:12 PM
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I'd read that and saw a newsclip recently. Something about so many bogus schools around the world churning out people that supposedly pass the tests but were coached and had the answers in advance? Seems counterproductive to throw someone into REAL LIFE situations who hasn't got the actual training, just memorization! Cloudy
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05-19-2002, 12:51 AM
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Red Dragon
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<br />\"A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five\" - Groucho Marx<br />Member of the ORT Clan. <br />\"Some birds are not meant to be caged because their feathers are too bright\"<br />Ma bouche sera la bouche des malheurs qui n\'ont point de bouche, ma voix, la liberté de celles qui s\'affaissent au cachot du désespoir. - Aimé Césaire<br />La plus perdue de toutes les journées est celle où l\'on n\'a pas ri. - Sébastien Roch Nicolas
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05-19-2002, 12:15 PM
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Emerald Dragon
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As long as you try you should be ok, watch out for that layered topology test in semester one though its a killer. The rest of semester one isn't that bad. Semesters two and theree are ok, lots of comands and it gets into theory there. Finally semester four is all theory so it isn't much fun. As for semesters five through tweleve i'm not going to go into those.
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05-19-2002, 04:04 PM
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I'd read that and saw a newsclip recently. Something about so many bogus schools around the world churning out people that supposedly pass the tests but were coached and had the answers in advance? Seems counterproductive to throw someone into REAL LIFE situations who hasn't got the actual training, just memorization! Cloudy[/QUOTE]No, nothing to do with bogus schools (although they certainly are out there). I meant that the IT market out here is pretty saturated. Unless you have some kind of other skill, your MCSE's really won't get you anywhere. At my company you must at least have your A+, CISCO, and MCSE certifications otherwise you don't have a chance. What counts more than anything though is experience. I'd take someone with 10 years experience over some kid just out of the local trade school with a pocket full of certifications any day. 5 years ago, you could go to a trade school, come out with your MCSE's and get a decent job making 55-60K per year. Now, if that's all you have, you're lucky to get a job in the industry. It's certainly not a bad thing to have, but don't expect it to write you a ticket anywhere. I'm sure that this isn't the case everywhere, but in SoCal, that's pretty much how it is.
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05-19-2002, 04:28 PM
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Milamber,
It's pretty much the same here in Australia. I feel very fortunate to have gotten into the IT market before it went down. I have friends who have topped courses, got 99.75% in their HSC. One even got 100% in three of his MCSE subjects, and they can't even get an interview, let alone a job. Aviendha. |
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<br />\"A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five\" - Groucho Marx<br />Member of the ORT Clan. <br />\"Some birds are not meant to be caged because their feathers are too bright\"<br />Ma bouche sera la bouche des malheurs qui n\'ont point de bouche, ma voix, la liberté de celles qui s\'affaissent au cachot du désespoir. - Aimé Césaire<br />La plus perdue de toutes les journées est celle où l\'on n\'a pas ri. - Sébastien Roch Nicolas
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